Ran'jit's strength makes no sense

[Noitems]

Listen I just assume he's Master Asia from G Gundam, because let's be real he IS Master Asia from G Gundam.



The moment I put my mind on that, it makes so much more sense why this guy is so strong.

[FrejyaAthenes]

Regardig power levels.

I don't mind that Ran'jit could beat us. i mind that for no real explanation other than 'we gained a few levels' we're able to beat him. I also wish that thancred had just killed him in Ahm Araeng, he really felt more like Thancred's foil and villain than the WOL's.

As for Zenos and Elidibus, keep in mind Lahabrea was also unsundered and not as powerful as Emet, so it could be that he was the strongest of the three in terms of 'power level.' We also managed to defeat Elidizenos 1 on 1, the only reason we 'lost' was because of being called at a poor time and Elidibus getting infinite 1 ups.

Considering the rather unceremonious way it ended, I'm inclined to agree. It felt like a formality with no sense of payoff for the WoL (or WoD, in this case).

[Bright-Flower]

Considering the rather unceremonious way it ended, I'm inclined to agree. It felt like a formality with no sense of payoff for the WoL (or WoD, in this case).

Honestly with Ran'jit, I think

he should have died after the Thancred fight. He was really more Thancred's foil and villain than ours, and he didn't do anything interesting in the Eulmore assault. It should have just ended there, it would have been a better ending to his story I think.

[Jennah]

His role in the story is so reminiscent of Zenos's that I half-think he really is Zenos. In the sense of the two of them being parts of the same shattered soul from way back when.

[Ilenya]

Reading through this, I am wondering...

Most of the time when we run into him, he's out and about, mainly dealing with us (and whatever pixies decide to play), but when we finally defeat him, it's in Eulmore, where Vauthry had just used his Sin Eater control thing. Now, he says that he isn't enthralled by Vauthry, but that doesn't mean he wasn't affected by what Vauthry did. He could have been weakened because Vauthry accidentally messed him up without meaning to. It'd give some sort of explanation as to why we managed to beat him, and still allow the fact that on normal conditions he could beat us to a bloody pulp.

[Cilia]

His grey / black sclera and pale skin tone imply Ran'jit's suffering from Sin Eater infection (willingly, no less), so his freakish strength and ability to survive situations nobody really should be able to (such as falling into a pit Y'shtola had to use Flow to get out of). His seeming ability to see through G'raha and the pixies' illusions, which apparently don't work on Sin Eaters, lends credence to this idea.

I can definitely agree that he should have been finished off by Thancred, given how the two mirror each other. The final fight against him felt unnecessary - like he was there just to have a powerful opponent to go against during the invasion of Eulmore.

[EdwinLi]

Reading through this, I am wondering...

Most of the time when we run into him, he's out and about, mainly dealing with us (and whatever pixies decide to play), but when we finally defeat him, it's in Eulmore, where Vauthry had just used his Sin Eater control thing. Now, he says that he isn't enthralled by Vauthry, but that doesn't mean he wasn't affected by what Vauthry did. He could have been weakened because Vauthry accidentally messed him up without meaning to. It'd give some sort of explanation as to why we managed to beat him, and still allow the fact that on normal conditions he could beat us to a bloody pulp.

He was not driven mad by Vauthry but by

his life long experience of seeing all the Children Minfilia die in his arms while being helpless to save them as he considered them as his daughters and even raised them as well until they died by the hands of a Sin Eater at a very young age.

His reason was made clear in his final moments when he.....

see the images of all the previous Oracles of Light that died before he finally dies while refering them as his daughters.

The years of watching the person he considered as his own daughter die countless times over and over and over again was what drove him into his madness side with Vauthry because he believed defeating the Sin Eater was impossible and the only way to keep the Oracle of Light, which he considered as his own daughter, safe was to side with the Sin Eaters since for years they have only lost against them with no sign of possible victory.

As for him continue to live, well I say it is better he did but they could have handled things a bit differently because he was more of a Antagonist for Thancred since Thancred is the Father Figure of Ryne. The clash between Thancred and Ran'jit is a clash between two Father figures with Ran'jit believeing that the only way to protect Ryne is sacrifice her freedom so she does not die like the countless past Oracles of light (which all died very young around the age where Ryne is fighting the Sin Eaters) and Thancred the Father who wants Ryne to live her life with her own freedom to choose despite the risks.

[Ilenya]

He was not driven mad by Vauthry but by

his life long experience of seeing all the Children Minfilia die in his arms while being helpless to save them as he considered them as his daughters and even raised them as well until they died by the hands of a Sin Eater at a very young age.

His reason was made clear in his final moments when he.....

see the images of all the previous Oracles of Light that died before he finally dies while refering them as his daughters.

The years of watching the person he considered as his own daughter die countless times over and over and over again was what drove him into his madness side with Vauthry because he believed defeating the Sin Eater was impossible and the only way to keep the Oracle of Light, which he considered as his own daughter, safe was to side with the Sin Eaters since for years they have only lost against them with no sign of possible victory.

As for him continue to live, well I say it is better he did but they could have handled things a bit differently because he was more of a Antagonist for Thancred since Thancred is the Father Figure of Ryne. The clash between Thancred and Ran'jit is a clash between two Father figures with Ran'jit believeing that the only way to protect Ryne is sacrifice her freedom so she does not die like the countless past Oracles of light (which all died very young around the age where Ryne is fighting the Sin Eaters) and Thancred the Father who wants Ryne to live her life with her own freedom to choose despite the risks.

I was very specifically aiming towards the people complaining about how we beat him so easily the when we do.

I agree that, storywise, it would have made more sense for him to have fallen to Thancred, but I guess they needed/wanted him as the last roadblock to Eulmore's freedom with Vauthry fleeing.

[SicariusSeven]

What bugged me is how there wasn't more to him other than the person who trained Ryne. He was master of that weird martial arts and there was no other mention of that. No other backstory. He shifted back and forth from being interesting to being annoying.

[KingOfCheese]

Honestly, I think his strength makes sense when taking everything into context.

Remember, this is a man who leads the finest army of his world. Has decades of battle experience, mostly fighting against inhuman monsters on a near constant basis till recently. With the added bonus of being partially Sin Eater, it's not so surprising that he would be a powerful adversary. Though the Warrior of Light is powerful, they are not as powerful as we make them out to be, since against most primals and even Zenos, they needed backup.