Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[reivaxe]

Reading through these convo and I guess I'm post the actual statement again.

"The addition of new playable races will impact more than the development cost of the items added in 5.1 and subsequent updates. Not only will we be transitioning from twelve variations (six races, two genders each) to fourteen, but we will also need to commit more resources to the development of new emotes. While FFXIV will continue to strive to maintain a regular 3.5 month major update cycle, we must also ensure that sufficient time is secured for the meticulous development of new content—or else the quality will invariably drop. This is a complex problem that can’t be solved simply by throwing more money or people at it, as it impacts both debugging and QA.

In summary, these are the circumstances which informed my previous statement that this is likely to be the last time we add new playable races; as at this point in time, it is difficult to see us maintaining our patch update schedule if we have to account for more than seven races and two genders (technically six races with two genders and two races with a single gender, but this is the functional equivalent).
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As you play through Shadowbringers, you’ll learn that both male Viera and female Hrothgar exist. While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself. I want to be clear that this does not mean it will eventually happen, and that I cannot make any promises at this time. I hope you will understand and bear with us."

It's not a singular issue or problem, it's various problems which prevent them from doing it. And even if they were to over come these problems down the line there's no promise that they would bother going through with it.

Many people read this as the most "no without saying no" you can get from a JPN company where as the child Player character stuff is more along the lines of "Never happening, stop asking for it (you sick fs)" as it, in so many words, tells people that they will not do that from a moral stand point. Seems to me some people see the hard NO on kids as reason to think less of not-a-hard-no statement when in actuality that's prob the most nope they can give as it gives them freedom to make them if they so please some day but makes it clear that they aren't doing it for a number of reasons and even if those problems that keep them from doing it are resolved they don't promise it will happen.

It's not that hard to link the post, not sure why everyone's acting like it's an annoyance.

[Halivel]

Yes, there is a 70th level dungeon that gives heels shoes for Tanks, Healers and Range Physical DPS. "The Swallow's Compass", if I remember correct. Good piece, still want to farm it.

[Kobalos]

I took Yoshis statement as a 'maybe' oviously the pro man bun crowd will see that as a 'yes' and the anti bake 'em in a pie' man bun crowd see it as a firm 'no'. Given that the races as they are, are unfinished I highly doubt we will get the missing genders anytime soon.

[zeylos]

Add trolls to your ignore lists and move on. I do wonder if males will be able to have heels for their racial gear though. Later on I know there is a dungeon (in Stormblood?) that gives us metallic beastial heels called "Bonewicca" for both genders and I would prefer if males got something like that.

I hope that the males get heels similar to the female heels in design. I really like them and I think it fits their race very well. Also, I wouldn't mind having more 'tribal' gear, but I would personally prefer a more lace/ elegant looking gear like the females, or maybe even for their hempen set

[zeylos]

No? Well, in fact will probably have the same options as females have.

I think that they will give missing genders on 6.0, and probs update the equipment and give new options to male hrotgar and female viera then, making it a huge selling point of the nexp expac

[zeylos]

Snip.

They literally state that they will maybe do it but they wont make any promise. The only times when devs make promises is on trailers or expacs shows. This is very far from a NO, specially considering that if it was a no, or no for 6.0 at least, they would have stated something along the lines of: We are sorry, but because of x and y excuse, we are sadly not able to be making them in the forseable future or the next expansion. We currently have no plans for them, and we wont make them if we dont come across an easy way to make them'. What they said was: not on 5.0, maybe on the future, which on game devs term is neither a no not a yes. It simply is the same response we got after Fan Fest but with different wordings

[grinkdaboy]

i'm pretty confident that we're going to get them as the japanese are beholden to the western audience since we are vastly more profitable than their own domestic audience. it's why we even got the hrothgar.

[Lauront]

I took Yoshis statement as a 'maybe' oviously the pro man bun crowd will see that as a 'yes' and the anti bake 'em in a pie' man bun crowd see it as a firm 'no'. Given that the races as they are, are unfinished I highly doubt we will get the missing genders anytime soon.

That's how I took it too - a maybe. Unfortunately for the "it's a no" crowd, there is a statement in the very letter itself which is a definite no, and you can compare the language between the two. Still, people are free to read whatever they want into things. I am not going to stop them.

[Gwenorai]

I'm of the mind that a maybe is a maybe until it isn't.
A possibility isn't a yes, or a no - until a factuality pushes it into either corner.

As an add on, it makes zero sense to hide behind the argument of language differences and politeness when he states he wishes to be 'clear' about the situation. If he wished to be clear for everyone to understand the situation, then a maybe can only mean a maybe, and not a thinly veiled 'yes' or 'no'.

[Mylionare]

That's how I took it too - a maybe. Unfortunately for the "it's a no" crowd, there is a statement in the very letter itself which is a definite no, and you can compare the language between the two. Still, people are free to read whatever they want into things. I am not going to stop them.

Even if it were a no, I do recall Yoshida being incredibly dismissive of adding more open world-esque content similar to final fantasy XI and older MMO's to the game in the past yes? Yet both diadem and eureka were designed in such a way and they seem to want to continue with this sort of content. I believe at best it is up in the air as an option.