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    Quote Originally Posted by Izsha View Post
    You have to add in the addition gain from infuriate recast. Put one way, every 11 fcs is an inner Chaos (infuriate functionally has a 55 sec cd due to the use of IC itself reducing it by 5 sec.) Spending gauge on onslaught means less fcs means less IC. Fc essentially has 'bonus' potency due to IR recast that got stronger due to IC being tied to it.

    Dont have time at the moment, but i can run the numbers again later. I did it after the media tour but havent again with live potency adjustments. But it was significant enough to tip the scales away from onslaught and i suspect it hasnt moved much. Onslaught was something like a 35ish pot loss before. You still wont want to spam on cd but it is small enough to always be advantageous to use to close a gap. Right where a gap closer should be. i can have a more exact # later.
    You only get Inner Chaos when you infuriate. It only happens once and it provides the gauge necessary for IC. It is essentially completely separate and acts identically in both scenarios. You don't get reduced Infuriate cooldown from FC anymore so I don't see how it effects anything at all. It should be pretty obvious I didn't mean you shout spend the 50 gauge from Infuriate on Onslaught instead of Inner Chaos.

    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Obviously there are GCDs appropriated to Fell Cleave, just like there are GCDs appropriated towards getting up eye and building gauge. The point is that just using Fell Cleave isn't always +590 potency (of course we aren't accounting for -5 sec infuriate potency here).

    Let's say there is a fight and you only get 200 gcds total throughout that encounter. X amount of GCDs would be "natural" Fell Cleaves (or ICs) that have to be used due to gauge generation. Therefore, you can only increase X by replacing an existing GCD.

    But hey, I got a tendency to be wrong about a lot of things. The simple fact that you have to jump through 215 hoops of fire just to make a point like this is borderline ridiculous.
    See above for infuriate. Otherwise I don't see what you're trying to say here. Yes you have to replace a GCD when you FC, that's why I calculate the difference in pot from a FC and the average pot + gauge generation from your combos. In a hypothetical fight with 100% uptime on the boss, you do more dps by using Onslaught on CD, and using the gauge you can't spend on Onslaught on FCs. Upheaval is first priority of course.

    *edit* Ah you're talking about raid buff windows. Yes in that case it matters what you can squeeze in. I don't take that into account.
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    Last edited by Rhyn; 07-19-2019 at 02:18 AM.

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