Lack of End Game Content

[Ibkee]

Absolutely... but it doesn't change the situation until 5.1.

A lot more players will start feeling the content pinch once they catch up.

But, again, Savage comes out in 12 days.

The content is being intentionally staggered so that people have time to do everything while balancing work, family, hobbies, other non-endgame content and even other games.

Other players shouldn't feel the content pinch if they have any experience with FFXIV because this is how the game is, has been and will be.

[Avraym]

But, again, Savage comes out in 12 days.

The content is being intentionally staggered so that people have time to do everything while balancing work, family, hobbies, other non-endgame content and even other games.

Other players shouldn't feel the content pinch if they gave any experience with FFXIV because this is how the game is, has been and will be.

Absolutely and I understand staggering the content. But as I mentioned, even with the addition of 4 boss fights doesn't come close to what other MMORPG's have as standard end game.

[Ibkee]

Absolutely and I understand staggering the content. But as I mentioned, even with the addition of 4 boss fights doesn't come close to what other MMORPG's have as standard end game.

Might I suggest you go play one of those other MMORPGs then? FFXIV doesn't have to cosplay as WoW to be good, indeed better, it already does that just by being itself.

Clearly you are looking for an experience the game doesn't offer and, after years of the formula, will never offer.

[Avraym]

Might I suggest you go play one of those other MMORPGs then? FFXIV doesn't have to cosplay as WoW to be good, indeed better, it already does that just by being itself.

Clearly you are looking for an experience the game doesn't offer and, after years of the formula, will never offer.

Why does the suggestion always come straight to "Play something else", instead of constructively considering, that maybe after all these years the formula is getting a bit stale. Maybe its time to add something more. The game isn't the same as it was since ARR and shouldn't confined to being as such.

[Ibkee]

Why does the suggestion always come straight to "Play something else", instead of constructively considering, that maybe after all these years the formula is getting a bit stale. Maybe its time to add something more. The game isn't the same as it was since ARR and shouldn't confined to being as such.

The formula is fine, did you never stop to consider that it's the formula which continues to drag the game from strength to strength?

Finishing everything up to Savage and having out-farmed both Ex Trials after only a few weeks of a 50+ hour story expansion dropping is not the norm. You are an outlier and Yoshi P, wisely, does not seek to detract from the tried and tested formula to cater to you. Though it seems you haven't done Ultimate yet so idk.

Welcome to Final Fantasy XIV where the unofficial motto is that Glamour is the True End Game. You want a WoW experience though and, for that, a game exists. It's called WoW.

[SturmChurro]

Why does the suggestion always come straight to "Play something else", instead of constructively considering, that maybe after all these years the formula is getting a bit stale. Maybe its time to add something more. The game isn't the same as it was since ARR and shouldn't confined to being as such.

Agreed. This always comes up in conversations of this nature, I've had it leveled at me many times. I don't want to play something else, I want to play this. This is the only game I play.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Why does the suggestion always come straight to "Play something else", instead of constructively considering, that maybe after all these years the formula is getting a bit stale. Maybe its time to add something more. The game isn't the same as it was since ARR and shouldn't confined to being as such.

Because it's the best counter to people who want the game to change to cater to them, instead of them adapting to the game or moving on to another game which already ticks all their preferred boxes.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Why does the suggestion always come straight to "Play something else", instead of constructively considering, that maybe after all these years the formula is getting a bit stale. Maybe its time to add something more. The game isn't the same as it was since ARR and shouldn't confined to being as such.

Because almost every other day we get a new thread of somebody complaining about something in FFXIV, and the OP very often tries to bring in another MMO (Mostly WoW) to compare. Not every MMO needs to be like WoW, and no MMO needs to be like the other. FFXIV is its own game, Let It BE its own game. That stale Formula you mention is something many of us have come to love about FFXIV. 3-5 month Patch cycles slowly releasing more content in a 2 year period until the next expansion...This Stale Formula has worked for how many years, and now FFXIV is like what, Number 2 in the MMO world? And it got that way, by being Itself.
NOT, by being WoW...or ANY other MMO.

We get alot of content to play. If you are caught up, there is ALWAYS something to do in this game.
Did all endgame and want more? WELP, gonna have to wait. This is the way of FFXIV. It doesn't need to change, everything is planned. If they release too much content now, we'd have less to look foreword to in the future.

[Kaylessa]

Number 2 in the MMO world? And it got that way, by being Itself.
NOT, by being WoW...or ANY other MMO.

When Yoshi-P came on to fix FFXIV in ARR, one of the first things he did was instruct the developers to play WOW to get a feeling of what an MMO is like. FFXIV was its own game (though likely not because it was based on FFXI which was inspired by Everquest), FFXIV ARR was more like WOW, they take inspiration from WOW, they cite WOW as a role model.

[Krotoan]

they take inspiration from WOW, they cite WOW as a role model.

This does not in any way mean "they copied WoW".

WoW is a great game for those who love that type of game. FFXIV is a different animal in the same safari. There are similarities sure but the focuses of both are easily identifiable different.