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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Yeah, and that wasn't happening with any real regularity. Now you're sitting here trying to use the mere fact that SE changed it to prove that there was some problem as though it supports your claims. I already acknowledged the reason that SE changed it, but SE's change wasn't a result of bad player behavior, just ordinary and innocuous behavior that created a situation that, in their opinion, was less than ideal.



    This is more in line with reality though. I'm certainly not suggesting sprouts never ever got flamed, but it's definitely not at the heart of why SE made the change, which was simply the speed running of a dungeon with stupidly long cutscenes.

    From the patch notes: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com//lode...33e139e9792abf



    To ensure new players are able to enjoy the cutscenes in Castrum Meridianum and the Praetorium, all cutscenes in these dungeons can no longer be skipped.

    Because this will increase the time required to complete these dungeons, completion rewards and Duty Roulette bonuses for these duties have been increased.

    It is specifically because new players were not able to watch the cutscenes that this was enforced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoNova View Post
    From the patch notes: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com//lode...33e139e9792abf






    It is specifically because new players were not able to watch the cutscenes that this was enforced.
    Yes, thank you for proving that what I said is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Yes, thank you for proving that what I said is correct.
    My personal opinion is both are right. Speed running was an issue that became a larger issue when some players began behaving badly. You saw it creep into the 4mans. There was small period where they actively blocked how much we could pull due to speed runs. However, I don’t feel we should discredit the effect players behavior had on the issue either. New players were being told to go to the inn in some rather rude ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    My personal opinion is both are right. Speed running was an issue that became a larger issue when some players began behaving badly. You saw it creep into the 4mans. There was small period where they actively blocked how much we could pull due to speed runs. However, I don’t feel we should discredit the effect players behavior had on the issue either. New players were being told to go to the inn in some rather rude ways.
    I'm not interested in your baseless conclusion-driven speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    I'm not interested in your baseless conclusion-driven speculation.
    lol what speculation? Every point he made in that post is true. I saw the same crap before they made it un-skippable. People were telling newbies to go watch cut scenes in the INN and there are now limits on how much a tank can pull because of barriers. Go run the first lvl 51 dungeon from HW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomagi View Post
    lol what speculation? Every point he made in that post is true. I saw the same crap before they made it un-skippable. People were telling newbies to go watch cut scenes in the INN and there are now limits on how much a tank can pull because of barriers. Go run the first lvl 51 dungeon from HW
    No, not really. You need to learn to distinguish between the truth and your feelings. He's still trying to say that antagonistic player behavior was responsible for the change, despite the total absence of evidence for such things. I realize that GD has a constant ax to grind with the player base at large, but this is little more than slander at this point.
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