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    If they don't take it down I will seriously quit the game. My privacy is more important than what I do for a hobby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelitus View Post
    If they don't take it down I will seriously quit the game. My privacy is more important than what I do for a hobby
    I've got some bad news for you then... It's not going to happen. If you want to opt out, go to the site and opt out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I've got some bad news for you then... It's not going to happen. If you want to opt out, go to the site and opt out.
    Ok will do but what does that mean exactly? People in game won't be able to see my data?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelitus View Post
    Ok will do but what does that mean exactly? People in game won't be able to see my data?
    All FFlogs does is register your performance during specific content if someone is running it. When you opt out, that information is blurred out entirely and inaccessible. FFlogs does nothing more than give you numbers for how you're doing in content. It won't track your achievements, game time, or anything else. There are third party sites that track more, FFlogs is just a tool for raiders to both gauge compatibility for statics and track their own progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    When you opt out, that information is blurred out entirely and inaccessible.
    Honest opinion. It should be opt in. If they swapped the whole system to be an opt in thing for those who WANT to be a part of it rather then the "Everyone is a part of this by default, whether you like it or not. But if you want out, ya gotta do this opt out stuff." Which, I will give credit, they did streamline and make opting out somewhat easier. But, a majority of complaints and threads like this (Troll or not.) would just sorta stop if they swapped to an opt in system. Not all, but definitely a decent chunk.

    It would also just calm some folks who really care about privacy and such down. Like, every time I think about it, changing things to an opt in system is far more beneficial in the long run, for everyone, then what it is now. But, I don't know, maybe I'm missing some key info that makes such a change impossible at all levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarRosie View Post
    It would also just calm some folks who really care about privacy and such down. Like, every time I think about it, changing things to an opt in system is far more beneficial in the long run, for everyone, then what it is now. But, I don't know, maybe I'm missing some key info that makes such a change impossible at all levels.
    iirc, Kihra's opinion is (tl;dr)

    Estimating the size of single threads like this compared to the size of optimization communities, though there are vocal minorities that don't like logs there's a lot more that do. From a strictly convenience point of view the logs should be opt-out then. It also lets people who might be casually curious how they're doing just see if they have any of their own stuff uploaded even if they aren't actively pursuing it. Specifically to the first point, it's true that while this might be an astonishingly long-winded thread it is microscopic compared to the daily activity in places like the Balance where there's a large number of people who're there specifically to improve based on numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelitus View Post
    If they don't take it down I will seriously quit the game. My privacy is more important than what I do for a hobby
    I've got even worse news for you lol. Your game data are not private nor do you own them. Read the TOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelitus View Post
    If they don't take it down I will seriously quit the game. My privacy is more important than what I do for a hobby
    You realize if you really want to you can make it so no one can upload your character data don't you?

    https://www.fflogs.com/help/hiding-characters/
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