SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[Melichoir]

Yet it does... Everyone defends FFlogs to and parsers to the death, and you want to say they don't give an huge advantage, then why make a big deal about must having to use so you don't get stuck with what u all so called bad players? You PC players want to keep that advantage for yourself. You can't have it both ways. But keep making up your own reality. Yoshi P said he was going balance healers out too, how that work out? I know he is like a god to you and never lies...

This is an incoherent point.

FF logs doesnt 'give you an advantage." It merely records your combat information so you can look through it later and work on improving. Itd be no different than people who record their sessions and rewatch it later to see where they can improve.

People defend it for this purpose. Its an improvement tool. The reason people use it to 'gate' players is that in harder content that requires a lot of coordination and skill, more advanced players do not want to hand hold a player who does not even bother to do proper rotations, cooldown usage, or other things that would make it hard (if not impossible) to clear that content. This isnt an end all be all either. Some people wont care and will take you anyways. But for people where time, effort, and patience is concerned, they want reliable players.

If you dont meet their standards, theyll tell you as much. Most raiders will say it politely (though perhaps a bit bluntly at times). It's not a dig at you. It's not a put down. If you wan to play the game in a casual way and arent concerned with min maxing or more difficult content, thats your choice. Just dont expect players who strive for excellence in the game to bend over backwards for your sake. If you want to join them in their endeavors, then strive to get up to their standards. Because yes, your damage, rotation, and skill usage does matter in current raid content. You will not beat the Savage tiers in a prog group if you dont have a solid understanding of your role and class along with boss mechanics. It's that simple.

As for 'keeping it to ourselves', this sounds like bitterness and resentment. There is nothing stopping you from having a PC buddy help you out and parse for you. And there is nothing stopping you from reading guides or joining discord servers like the Balance to get detailed guides for proper opener rotations and openers. Parsers dont stop you from doing this. You dont need ACT or FFLogs to do good dps or proper CD usage. It doesnt give you a competitive advantage in that sense. If anything is holding you back from being a better player, it would be your attitude and mentality. If you apply for a raid group and they want to see your logs, tell them you run PS4. Theyll just parse you on a training dummy to see what you do. There are so many ways to get better or be a part of the raiding crowd. Yeah, it is harder on you for being on PS4 and that sucks, but it's not stopping you.