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  1. #8421
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    What does a rabbit like face even entail in this context? If it's some chinless, buck-toothed wonder, I somehow doubt that'll fit within the rubric of "handsome". I certainly don't think the artwork that was posted earlier could be considered handsome, as well drawn as it may be.
    I think it would be something very subtle, along these lines:

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    After all, female viera aren't hugely 'rabbit like' in their design. It's very subdued. Much like Miqo'te, they're more Hyur with very slight animal features tacked on. Hrothgar are more animal-like - and even Raen/Xaela men can be described as such in comparison.
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  2. #8422
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    That's fine. I think Yoshi-P will design the men to have classically handsome facial options
    I disagree, as the concept art shows male viera with a rabbit-like, or miqo'te-esque, facial structure.
    Please take a closer look at this image:


    "We would have to use our own imagination for that. There was fear about how we would approach that. Perhaps an elezen body with a miqo’te face and bunny ears."
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...8GTvPw4uI/edit
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGezcBuu-mc

    Judging by both Yoshida's words and all of the other concept art, including the one in my post, it seems like a rabbit-like facial structure, or a miqo'te-esque face, is the most likely route they will take with male viera. By looking at the rabbit-like facial structures the females have, we can make an educated guess as to how the males will look.

    Of course, it's too soon to say anything with certainty. However, I am simply speculating this is the most likely outcome if male viera are to be added.

    In my personal opinion, a "classically handsome" face would not be suitable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    What does a rabbit like face even entail in this context?
    Something similar to a male miqo'te's face. In addition, the nose would look similar to the female's - more rabbit-like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Male Miqo'te are designed to be classically handsome, so I'm glad to see we're on the same page.
    I disagree. You showed a picture before to explain what you meant by "classically handsome" - it was a western view of masculinity - and also human. Male miqo'te are not that.

    The phrase "classically handsome" implies there would be typical features one would associate with being handsome. However, viera are not typical, as they are not human/hyur to begin with. Viera are not human/hyur, and there is nothing "typical" or "classic" about their facial structure if you take a look at the concept art.
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  3. #8423
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    Male Miqo'te are designed to be classically handsome, so I'm glad to see we're on the same page.
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    I do believe that the male Viera will have something similar in regards to leporine features. Hares, not rabbits - though obviously close enough. Anyway, the turn up of the nose is a given. I don't see any other reason why they should have anything that is more leporine like. Hares aren't all that cute anyway. I'm curious about their facial hair, I really want them to be one of the first that has decent beards? Like beards with braids. Something nordic, to go with the Icelandic voices they have.
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  5. #8425
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    Miqo’te influences are fairly subtle and they have a classically handsome option in the dad face. I don’t mind subtle influences and with miqo’te it’s a nod in the feline direction more than anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I'm glad to see some posters are coming around to the idea of viera men not having rabbit inspired facial features.
    A little late but hey whatever.

    The made the female Viera way more human looking. The are suppose to have claw hands and feets with more bunny faces but they leaned away from that because.......sex sells I guess.
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    Y'all are killing me with this child vs adult debate, slim body vs toned body vs muscular body.
    You all get Hrothgar in GS bunny ears and you'll like it.
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    I don't think Hrothgar's body type suits male Viera at all. It was also strange that they based their body off of Roegadyn when in FFX they seem more similar to Au Ra/Highlander (Khimari at least). I still think a good solution would be to have different body types for Veena and Rava while still sharing similarities in their faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    I don't think Hrothgar's body type suits male Viera at all. It was also strange that they based their body off of Roegadyn when in FFX they seem more similar to Au Ra/Highlander (Khimari at least). I still think a good solution would be to have different body types for Veena and Rava while still sharing similarities in their faces.
    Two body types would be effectively 2 new races. SE would have to create and fit everything to 2 body types, and if you do that for both genders, we are talking about effectively 4 races here. Implausible, so no, it wouldn't be a good solution. Being that they didn't include the other genders for these reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    What does a rabbit like face even entail in this context? If it's some chinless, buck-toothed wonder, I somehow doubt that'll fit within the rubric of "handsome". I certainly don't think the artwork that was posted earlier could be considered handsome, as well drawn as it may be.
    The females look like humans at first glance, the only 'rabbit-like' features are the nose to an extent (the tip) and the position of the mouth to the nose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Eden Spoilers:

    I think the physique of the final boss could work well for a rugged, fierce defender of the forest.
    Would definitely work!

    When he takes his armor (transforms his drills and stuff into a cart) off he looks like a pacific islander warrior, really cool.


    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I disagree. To me, it looks like the twitter user was taking the female viera's rabbit-like facial structure into account for their own model. Many of the other races including Hyur, Elezen, Miqote, and so on do offer a softer face as an option in the character creator. If male viera is implemented into the game, I would like a softer face similar to the model I had posted earlier as one of the options.
    Yeah, I'm just not seeing the rabbit like features at all even in the 3d model. It just looks like a 15 y/o face at best. I am talking about the actual model, not the art. So it being an adult and it being "just the artstyle" has no bearing. Looks good for a male viera before they leave for the wood, or right when they leave (After puberty)! Great concept for a viera if we see one in the game that is around Alphinaud/Alisaie's age range!

    This one. It can't be confused with artstyle since it is a 3d render. I definitely do not see any rabbit-like features in the face.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    The person who drew that is also working on a 3D model of their character, which I thought looked really nice.
    I already posted it before, but since you're asking...

    model by twitter user: @gIue_stick

    It's obviously not done yet, but this is what this particular face would look like in 3D. I would like to have something like this as a face option. The model is based off the drawing I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    ...
    I disagree.

    "The model I showed is not finished yet. From what I understand, the twitter user creating this model is observing the facial structure of the female viera, or rather the rabbit-like structure of their faces, and translating that onto their own model. One thing this user could improve upon is making their nose more rabbit like, but otherwise, I think something like this would be a great face option."

    The face is similar to that of miqo'te.

    It is very likely that the male viera face will look similar to male miqo'tes face, or have rabbit-like features. The concept art I showed before furthers that point, but I will present another art piece from the other concept art to further this point even more:


    You can compare this to the male miqo'te concept art
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    Last edited by Senn; 07-17-2019 at 10:28 AM.

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