5.0 AST is a failure

[Cyrocco]

Thank god, AST is fixed.
See ya'll in a year after they've reworked the rework, fixed the reworked rework, and nerf the fixed reworked rework.

[MeHeal]

...So of all the potencies and effect duration adjustments they could have made, you guys are fine with 100MP off of gravity?
I'm sorry I'm new here, I didn't realize people were so comfortable with this pace.

"Shadowbringers hasn't even come out yet! At least wait for the patch notes!"
"It's just the patch notes! You need to actually try it first!"
"It's only been one day! Get to level 80 before you judge!"
"Of course you can't expect fixes in 2 weeks, wait for patch 5.05!"
"Now that 5.05 they need to compile raid data first! Give them at least another month!"

I guess that's one way to keep subscriptions up.
I thought I was kidding about the one year thing, but peace out

[Gemina]

...So of all the potencies and effect duration adjustments they could have made, you guys are fine with 100MP off of gravity?
I'm sorry I'm new here, I didn't realize people were so comfortable with this pace.

"Shadowbringers hasn't even come out yet! At least wait for the patch notes!"
"It's just the patch notes! You need to actually try it first!"
"It's only been one day! Get to level 80 before you judge!"
"Of course you can't expect fixes in 2 weeks, wait for patch 5.05!"
"Now that 5.05 they need to compile raid data first! Give them at least another month!"

I guess that's one way to keep subscriptions up.
I thought I was kidding about the one year thing, but peace out

Laterz! o/

[Cyrocco]

...So of all the potencies and effect duration adjustments they could have made, you guys are fine with 100MP off of gravity?
I'm sorry I'm new here, I didn't realize people were so comfortable with this pace.

"Shadowbringers hasn't even come out yet! At least wait for the patch notes!"
"It's just the patch notes! You need to actually try it first!"
"It's only been one day! Get to level 80 before you judge!"
"Of course you can't expect fixes in 2 weeks, wait for patch 5.05!"
"Now that 5.05 they need to compile raid data first! Give them at least another month!"

I guess that's one way to keep subscriptions up.
I thought I was kidding about the one year thing, but peace out

Oh cut it out drama queen. You can't throw a fit when they basically announce more changes are coming. Something tells me nothing sooner than changes the day after release would've made you happy.

No one's saying you need to wait for patch notes.

No one's saying you need to try it.

No one's saying you need to get to level 80.

Why? Because everyone knows there are problems.

But you're acting like a crazy Walmart Customer who needs to be taken care of now, and that's just not how the world works.

[Physic]

Oh cut it out drama queen. You can't throw a fit when they basically announce more changes are coming. Something tells me nothing sooner than changes the day after release would've made you happy.

No one's saying you need to wait for patch notes.

No one's saying you need to try it.

No one's saying you need to get to level 80.

Why? Because everyone knows there are problems.

But you're acting like a crazy Walmart Customer who needs to be taken care of now, and that's just not how the world works.

i think his point is, astro could use potency and cool down changes.

while that is true, my take is these changes were not even a potency/cost whatever pass, just a couple tiny things they were willing to put in now. That said, my expectations are not very high

[Seraphor]

...So of all the potencies and effect duration adjustments they could have made, you guys are fine with 100MP off of gravity?
I'm sorry I'm new here, I didn't realize people were so comfortable with this pace.

"Shadowbringers hasn't even come out yet! At least wait for the patch notes!"
"It's just the patch notes! You need to actually try it first!"
"It's only been one day! Get to level 80 before you judge!"
"Of course you can't expect fixes in 2 weeks, wait for patch 5.05!"
"Now that 5.05 they need to compile raid data first! Give them at least another month!"

I guess that's one way to keep subscriptions up.
I thought I was kidding about the one year thing, but peace out

You're new here so you don't realise how this works.

It's not that people are fine with this, it's that we know it's just not coming yet. This first set of adjustment is always more of "this isn't quite what we intended", it's not until after the raid series that we get the "ok, so this isn't working and the players hate this" adjustments.

There are plenty of people complaining, and it's all the same things, so there's no way SE are going to just flat out ignore it. You just need to be patient.

And it is 5.05 we're still waiting for, this is 5.01. If 5.05 comes and goes and there's been no adjustments, they've officially missed their deadline.

[Crushnight]

as a scholar main i feel bad for you guys i'll admit our situation sucks in terms of playability but at least it can function cause of numbers and such. after what i have read here though it pretty much sounds unplayable or to the point it would never be worth it. i really hope you guys get some stuff to work with in a very soon patch/hotfix or whatever cause its sounds downright miserable from what's here. for anyone who still keeps sticking it out hoping things get better and sorry that you guys REALLY got the short end of the stick.

It is not that ast is unplayable because it can do all content atm fine, it is that it's undesirable due to having weaker heals, weaker pdps and its card buffs are only good for pad runs (which are unpredictable due to rng \o/), anything else you are better off taking whm/sch due to safety and higher pdps.

TBH i didn't even think they would lower Gravity mp so small surprise for that, don't expect anything more until 5.05-5.1 at this stage.

[Yakugami]

But you're acting like a crazy Walmart Customer who needs to be taken care of now

You just need to be patient.

i mean

i'm not going to agree with the way MeHeal put his arguments
because, sure, it's a bit out there and "drama queen-y"

but like

you guys DO understand how long things like MCH went... the way they did, correct?
i'm not trying to be a doomsayer, but this does count as a valid concern
it isn't even just about "i need this fixed now" or "patience"

it seemingly takes them years to get around to fixing garbage concepts to something as simple as RNG procs to your basic 123 combo

-shrug-
it's just a little disheartening sometimes

this game has no "specs", you play one class one way the same as everyone else, which is fine, but it seems like that should be more of a reason to not... seem... so... "secondary" when it comes to the pacing of updates and balances for the game overall

i mean, don't get me wrong, the fights, the story, the.... well, the everything, really, even down to the crafting classes, are all absolutely gorgeous and amazing, that's why i, as well as many others, are subbing to this game, as everything is just so top-notch

it's just upsetting that the way that we play the actual game every time we log in, seems to have less.... oomph put into it than everything else

[Cyrocco]

you guys DO understand how long things like MCH went... the way they did, correct?
i'm not trying to be a doomsayer, but this does count as a valid concern
it isn't even just about "i need this fixed now" or "patience"

it seemingly takes them years to get around to fixing garbage concepts to something as simple as RNG procs to your basic 123 combo

They have a team of four who have to work on every job every expac, every balance patch.

Look at the Tank and DPS roles, everyone else has their gripes too.

But if people insist on shouting at the devs even when they announce updates at a later date, why not take that energy and complain about the lack of staff dedicated to job design.

You know, send the message of: "You need more people to work on this big of a game." rather than "You need to make your small team work faster."

[Yakugami]

They have a team of four who have to work on every job every expac, every balance patch.

well THAT'S horrible
didn't know that
and, yea, of course i knew every class had their gripes
that's why i was hoping for it to have more... of a priority
but, yea, accurate, then, that explains why it seems "secondary", as i said

so, yes, then, i do agree with this

send the message of: "You need more people to work on this big of a game." rather than "You need to make your small team work faster."