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[RoyalBeef]

I main BRD and I never cared about parsing because I felt like I was doing alright and I was clearing content, so what,right? Then I saw someone uploaded a few Titania Ex runs and I was barely pulling 8k DPS, being greyer than grey, which was a bummer, I didn't expect I was actually that bad and realized I was being carried most of the time, and people were just being polite to not ask me wtf I was doing (granted I've seen SAMs parsing below 7k so a 8k BRD still was a better deal to them lol.).
So I started to notice that dots falling of here and there, being out of range during certain mechanics etc added up way more DPS loss than I thought, and I started actively improving skill usage, movement, uptime. And what do you know, a week later I managed to pull of 10k DPS tops, now carrying parties myself and being complimented after the kills. Parsing had improved my experience in this game a lot because now I can tell when I'm doing alright and when I'm not, and for a DPS thats pretty much the only way to know (when tank or heal messes up it's way more obvious ^^). Just because there are a few bad apples who might use it to harrass people (which as I said never happened to me, and I never saw it happen in any PF party I've been in) is no need to ban the thing. Those people would harrass you anyway, if it wasn'tfor the parses they'd find something else.

[ForteNightshade]

Who decided that you "should" be doing 10k? Did you kill it with 6k? If so, then it's fine. The time difference is what? Probably maybe 30 seconds? Who cares about 30 seconds?

10k is slightly above average for most DPS currently whereas 6k borders on AFK status. If the boss died while you contributed only 6k DPS, that's because the other players carried you. Why should they have to pick up your slack when you shouldn't queue into content you aren't ready for? While I'm primarily referring to EX and Savage with my response, this logic also applies to dungeons. If I do a wall-to-wall pull and everyone, myself included, are aoeing the mobs down except one person. Why should they get a free pass? Once again, the stuff died because of everyone else putting in the work. If we all half-asked it too, stuff wouldn't die.

It isn't that time that matters but the consideration. You couldn't be bothered to learn your basic rotation but still want to reap the benefits of clearing content, albeit on the backs of other players.

I main BRD and I never cared about parsing because I felt like I was doing alright and I was clearing content, so what,right? Then I saw someone uploaded a few Titania Ex runs and I was barely pulling 8k DPS, being greyer than grey, which was a bummer, I didn't expect I was actually that bad and realized I was being carried most of the time, and people were just being polite to not ask me wtf I was doing (granted I've seen SAMs parsing below 7k so a 8k BRD still was a better deal to them lol.).
So I started to notice that dots falling of here and there, being out of range during certain mechanics etc added up way more DPS loss than I thought, and I started actively improving skill usage, movement, uptime. And what do you know, a week later I managed to pull of 10k DPS tops, now carrying parties myself and being complimented after the kills. Parsing had improved my experience in this game a lot because now I can tell when I'm doing alright and when I'm not, and for a DPS thats pretty much the only way to know (when tank or heal messes up it's way more obvious ^^). Just because there are a few bad apples who might use it to harrass people (which as I said never happened to me, and I never saw it happen in any PF party I've been in) is no need to ban the thing. Those people would harrass you anyway, if it wasn'tfor the parses they'd find something else.

And this is precisely why I dislike how terrified the devs are of parsers. I've come across plenty of people in similar situations—thinking they were contributing far more than they actually were. I even was one myself back when I started playing. If parsers were ever allowed more openly, I honestly think it would be a huge benefit to improving player skill. The bad apples would inevitably get themselves banned in short order while players genuinely wanting to improve could see what potential issues are and hopefully work on them.

[Unaki]

10k is slightly above average for most DPS currently whereas 6k borders on AFK status.

Unless you're DNC. Then you're about average at 7k.

[SturmChurro]

Unless you're DNC. Then you're about average at 7k.

The difference between me as a dancer, is I actually contribute to the party wide damage through buffs and utility, and especially contribute to my dance partners personal DPS substantially if they know how to utilize their skillset. A non-dancer dps doing below, very below, average does not contribute to the party like a dancer does. For that matter, if everyone is performing well, a dancer isn't needed at all.

[SweetestLily]

I feel like I've seen this exact post word for word somewhere before a long time ago. I swear I have.

[savageink]

But it isn't "a cancer" to have someone pulling 7k in a fight they should be at 10k? I would also like to know what complex single target rotations you're referring to because out Ninja and maybe Machinist, most jobs are pretty basic. I mean, have you seen Dragoon or Samurai?

It's the DF so, no, not cancer. You want to play with parsers-great. Save it for your static.

[Hysterior]

You know you can remove your stats from there right?

[KageTokage]

You know you can remove your stats from there right?

You can hide it, but not remove it entirely.

That's actually the only reason I did make an account...except people started judging me for hiding my parses instead, so there really isn't a way to escape.

I did it mostly because I'm too lazy to actively log my own parses and someone made a stupid remark about me "not being good enough" for a particular fight after seeing a single gray parse from my very first sloppy clear of a particular encounter that happened over a week beforehand. It was the only run out of several that actually got logged so judging off of that one instance was rather foolish.

[LiteBrite]

Just a bunch of crap PC players are allowed to use parsers, and us ps4 console peasants are judged on our numbers, not allowed notta to improve numbers. And people want to judge other people's numbers based of that, such BS. Oh by the way nice job on balancing the healers, not! Maybe "you know who" will get it right for a third time, in two years. NOT holding me breathe. I just came to the conclusion "you know who" hates healers.

[Lunafreya]

As an aside, Yes. The focus on healers DPSing/healer DPS has totally lessened when you have WHMs capable of pulling more damage than the tanks.

That's because WHM is completely busted currently and SE has decided it is WHM's turn to dominate after AST and SCH did. In other words they can't come to any balance decision that works. That's also why Dancer wasn't a healer and you know it.