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  1. #71
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    Mixt's Avatar
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    Mixt Bell
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    I have had a few experiences myself where i'm out of cooldowns so i do a small pull to avoid getting ganked, but then a DPS runs ahead and pulls more, and when i grab those extra mobs i predictably die due to being out of CD's and the healer not being able to keep up with the incoming damage, then the mobs kill everyone else, causing a wipe.

    Then the DPS cries and starts acting like it's my fault we wiped when they were the ones who pulled more than we could handle.
    "Use your cooldowns stupid!"
    Umm...WHAT COOLDOWNS? You mean those that are still on CD? The ones i used up on the previous big pull? THOSE COOLDOWNS!? All i have is bloody Sheltron, and that's not enough on it's own!
    Uuuuurrrrgghhh...

    Cause a wipe, blame the tank for your own stupid, then go right back to pulling extra and wipe the party again, then call the tank names...

    And people defend this behaviour and are all "Tank adjust lol!"

    Really, throwing tantrums over wipes that you yourselves caused by pulling extra mobs that i deliberately avoided pulling because i KNEW it would end badly if i did...
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  2. #72
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    My only rule is adapt to the group or leave by choice or force.
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  3. #73
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    Blaise Darkstar
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Anything you come up with, make sure to compare to the rules at: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...6&id=5382&la=1

    Specifically these:



    You have to be very careful in the speech you use in groups. If someone construes one of your expressions as trying to compel them to play a certain way, or they feel left out within the community, or that you completely disagree with their opinion, you could face action on your account.

    Figured I've give the heads up as a sort of public service announcement.


    With that said, everything you said looks like commonsense to me. And I could agree with it. Though with the rules being what they are. I think I'll just keep all of my ingame 'experessions' to my private discord. Though thankfully your suggestion doesn't require anyone speaking in game.
    I forget sometimes that USA is really the only country in the world with free speech. Of course I think people should be kind to each other in game, and IRL; but people getting banned from the game for being offensive is crazy to me.
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  4. #74
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    Dirk Gently
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    "the you spank it you tank it" thing is always funny.

    running a pug, one time I remember having a super tank who pulled everything as fast as humanly possible. and everyone was hitting buttons as fast as possible to keep up...then suddenly the dude charges up to the next mob and stops dead in front of it and turns around. everybody in the party is in twitch mode at this point and somebody nails the mob. tank just stands there. and complains about people pulling. i wrote it off as a troll.

    or tank pulls a bunch of mobs in an open area, nearby mob aggros the healer. tank pulls out the "you tank it" BS. I try to pull them off the healer. Healer is trying to run away and keep the tank alive. wipe. next time he tries the same crap. I manage to pull the mob off the healer in time and drop it right accross the tanks aoes. Tank whines about it.

    mistakes happen. whether it's a dps accidentally pulling a mob or a tank mass pulling in the middle of an open area where anybody can aggro passing mobs instead of on the side (or just grabbing all of them). if you get pissy about it expect to wipe.
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  5. #75
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    If you're so eager to pull so quickly then why don't you queue as tank in the first place? DPS have longer queue time so let the tank decide the pace. I as DNC always respect Tank and never pull a mob even when the tank is newb and doesn't know how enmity works (rarely used aoe on multiple mobs), even when it's obviously safe to pull more than one pack, even when my flourishes buff were about to fall off. Seriously, if you queue as dps you should accept the fact that you're not the one who sets the pace. Tanks and healers do. So please respect them, they're helping your queue time shorter.

    Or you could just be the tank or healer yourself and pull three or more packs as your heart's content, or even better you could premade with your friend as the tank and healer to do this and finish the run in one minute or so to not waste your precious time.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanNinjaToo View Post
    I forget sometimes that USA is really the only country in the world with free speech. Of course I think people should be kind to each other in game, and IRL; but people getting banned from the game for being offensive is crazy to me.
    American constitutional "free speech" is simply that the government can't put you in jail for talking out of your butt. Aside from that, you can be censured by your not so adoring public and, as always, companies can choose whatever rules they want for their forums. Really, any entity can post rules for their privately owned public spaces and enforce them through bans of a temporary or permanent nature. And that's not even including libel and other things people can sue you for.
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    If you're so eager to pull so quickly then why don't you queue as tank in the first place? DPS have longer queue time so let the tank decide the pace. I as DNC always respect Tank and never pull a mob even when the tank is newb and doesn't know how enmity works (rarely used aoe on multiple mobs), even when it's obviously safe to pull more than one pack, even when my flourishes buff were about to fall off. Seriously, if you queue as dps you should accept the fact that you're not the one who sets the pace. Tanks and healers do. So please respect them, they're helping your queue time shorter.

    Or you could just be the tank or healer yourself and pull three or more packs as your heart's content, or even better you could premade with your friend as the tank and healer to do this and finish the run in one minute or so to not waste your precious time.
    if you are talking to me, i don't think you actually parsed what i said.
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  8. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    if you are talking to me, i don't think you actually parsed what i said.
    Well, I didn't quote your previous post, did I?
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    Well, I didn't quote your previous post, did I?
    lol! no, you didn't. my bad. sometimes people don't... in my defense i did say "if"
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    0.5 seconds faster is still a faster run lmao.
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