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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    I can agree that "you spank it, you tank it" is bad - but I can't agree with pulling the boss as a DPS.
    As a healer, dps pulling boss is the last thing I want to see
    They are squishy, I need work three times as hard to keep them alive, and they run around like a headless chicken when they take a bit of dmg from boss, and by doing so positioning the boss in terrible way and cleaving everyone in party and making tank have to chase it back

    Dropping a buff on dps will slow thing down but making boss fight into a mess will making it worse
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    Mixt Bell
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    Lich
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I have had a few experiences myself where i'm out of cooldowns so i do a small pull to avoid getting ganked, but then a DPS runs ahead and pulls more, and when i grab those extra mobs i predictably die due to being out of CD's and the healer not being able to keep up with the incoming damage, then the mobs kill everyone else, causing a wipe.

    Then the DPS cries and starts acting like it's my fault we wiped when they were the ones who pulled more than we could handle.
    "Use your cooldowns stupid!"
    Umm...WHAT COOLDOWNS? You mean those that are still on CD? The ones i used up on the previous big pull? THOSE COOLDOWNS!? All i have is bloody Sheltron, and that's not enough on it's own!
    Uuuuurrrrgghhh...

    Cause a wipe, blame the tank for your own stupid, then go right back to pulling extra and wipe the party again, then call the tank names...

    And people defend this behaviour and are all "Tank adjust lol!"

    Really, throwing tantrums over wipes that you yourselves caused by pulling extra mobs that i deliberately avoided pulling because i KNEW it would end badly if i did...
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    My only rule is adapt to the group or leave by choice or force.
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    Evanoel Crownguard
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    If you're so eager to pull so quickly then why don't you queue as tank in the first place? DPS have longer queue time so let the tank decide the pace. I as DNC always respect Tank and never pull a mob even when the tank is newb and doesn't know how enmity works (rarely used aoe on multiple mobs), even when it's obviously safe to pull more than one pack, even when my flourishes buff were about to fall off. Seriously, if you queue as dps you should accept the fact that you're not the one who sets the pace. Tanks and healers do. So please respect them, they're helping your queue time shorter.

    Or you could just be the tank or healer yourself and pull three or more packs as your heart's content, or even better you could premade with your friend as the tank and healer to do this and finish the run in one minute or so to not waste your precious time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    If you're so eager to pull so quickly then why don't you queue as tank in the first place? DPS have longer queue time so let the tank decide the pace. I as DNC always respect Tank and never pull a mob even when the tank is newb and doesn't know how enmity works (rarely used aoe on multiple mobs), even when it's obviously safe to pull more than one pack, even when my flourishes buff were about to fall off. Seriously, if you queue as dps you should accept the fact that you're not the one who sets the pace. Tanks and healers do. So please respect them, they're helping your queue time shorter.

    Or you could just be the tank or healer yourself and pull three or more packs as your heart's content, or even better you could premade with your friend as the tank and healer to do this and finish the run in one minute or so to not waste your precious time.
    if you are talking to me, i don't think you actually parsed what i said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    if you are talking to me, i don't think you actually parsed what i said.
    Well, I didn't quote your previous post, did I?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evanoel View Post
    Well, I didn't quote your previous post, did I?
    lol! no, you didn't. my bad. sometimes people don't... in my defense i did say "if"
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    Aria Elunia
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    0.5 seconds faster is still a faster run lmao.
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    Last edited by AriaEnia; 07-16-2019 at 11:20 AM.

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    Rawon Special
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    Bard Lv 100
    3. Don’t limit Limit Breaks to the last 5% of the final boss.
    in most of my case, its "i (healer/tank) decide to use Limit Breaks because the final boss is dead and nobody care to use it" lol
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    3. Don’t limit Limit Breaks to the last 5% of the final boss. A ranged dps limit break, for example, is super useful in really large trash pulls. (The expectations are a little different in raids, where people tend to leave LB alone so healers can use LB3 in the face of a pending wipe to resurrect everyone.)
    I wish more people would realise this, especially in Shadowbringers levelling and level 80 dungeons with wall-to-wall pulls. If you're a caster (or a ranged and your party doesn't have a caster), please for the love of Hydaelyn use that LB on one of those big pulls. It's an amazing DPS gain and makes your healer's and tank's lives much easier.
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