Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[alacruxe]

Why do you keep lashing out at people who aren't fully on board with the idea?

Dunno if "lashing out" is the right turn of phrase, but sure, I'll play ball:
Because I think it's silly that people are getting their undies in a twist over a pretty inoffensive character choice.

[Theodric]

Dunno if "lashing out" is the right turn of phrase, but sure, I'll play ball:
Because I think it's silly that people are getting their undies in a twist over a pretty inoffensive character choice.

They're not really getting that worked up over it. They simply don't find it plausible and see it as too much of a stretch. As I mentioned earlier, those doing such things seem to want praise and nothing else which is completely counterproductive.

[alacruxe]

those doing such things seem to want praise and nothing else

I mean, if roleplaying is the same thing as praise, then sure.

Personally, I really don't care if the community ~*~validates~*~ me. All I'm interested in doing is exploring a character concept through collaborative storytelling. I think it's probably pretty fair to say that the same thing goes for anybody else who RPs. It's pretty unfair to assume some kind of ulterior motive there.

[Theodric]

I mean, if roleplaying is the same thing as praise, then sure.

Personally, I really don't care if the community ~*~validates~*~ me. All I'm interested in doing is exploring a character concept through collaborative storytelling. I think it's probably pretty fair to say that the same thing goes for anybody else who RPs. It's pretty unfair to assume some kind of ulterior motive there.

What ulterior motive is being assumed? Quite a few of us within this thread are simply stating that we don't find it plausible and that it doesn't look anything like a male viera.

It could have ended on that note with those involved simply agreeing to disagree. So I'm a little baffled that it's still a point of discussion.

You're the one who keeps lashing out by accusing those who aren't on board with it as lacking imagination or throwing a tantrum.

It's not that deep. It's just a matter of personal preferences.

[alacruxe]

What ulterior motive is being assumed?

The...the ulterior motive of wanting praise...?

I mean, that's what you said, right? That people making these characters just want praise.

(edit) Addendum:
I mean, if I were just fishing for praise, I could have made some much stronger claims. The options for a "masculine" character are pretty limited and it's not exactly easy to make a character with the kind of features I'd want to. Female Au Ra, Miqo'te, and Viera models all have no cheekbones at all, for example. And that's a critique I'd level at the models themselves in general, not just the impracticality of trying to make a female model look like a male one.

As it is, I was just doing the best I could with what was given. Big shrug. I really want to see other people take a shot at it, which was one of the things I was aiming for in making the post in the first place. I'm a little disappointed nobody else has posted their tries, because I'm still interested to see.

Then again, with the kind of negativity I seem to have spawned by posting a screenshot and a trace of a screenshot, I don't know if it's really a good idea to encourage other people to do the same.

[Theodric]

The...the ulterior motive of wanting praise...?

Yet that seems to be exactly what you're after. If you're not open to criticism, then you're only after praise - which may not be intentional on your part but that is most certainly how it came across.

Alternative ideas were put forward as to how best to design a male character that resembles a viera male and they were shot down, so it doesn't seem like there's much desire for debate and discussion despite claims to the contrary.

It went down the exact same way it went down the last time someone posted something similar earlier on in the thread in other words.

[Senn]

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I don't think they were looking for debate or critique. Not everyone who comes into this thread wants to do that. Sometimes people come here just to show their support, art, screenshots, or whatever. You're right, it's not that deep, so there's no need to be dismissive.

Some of you guys are in debate mode, but that's not the primary intent of this thread.

[Adamantini]

(...)I really want to see other people take a shot at it, which was one of the things I was aiming for in making the post in the first place. I'm a little disappointed nobody else has posted their tries, because I'm still interested to see.(...)

I know I'm late for this, but when I saw your post before, I did not post nothing because this thread is full with screenshots of my character (And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I was the first person who tried the "super mario" mustache on a viera). You can see my posts here:

first attempt: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...34#post5026334
current appearance: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post5056276
current appearance 2: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post5070417
EDIT: I forgot this one http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...03#post5062503

I'm working on a drawing too, but it's not finished yet (I was on Praetorium, I was really bored. Maybe i will finish this at next Praetorium run)

[alacruxe]

I know I'm late for this, but when I saw your post before, I did not post nothing because this thread is full with screenshots of my character (And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I was the first person who tried the "super mario" mustache on a viera). You can see my posts here:

first attempt: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...34#post5026334
current appearance: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post5056276
current appearance 2: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post5070417
EDIT: I forgot this one http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...03#post5062503

I'm working on a drawing too, but it's not finished yet (I was on Praetorium, I was really bored. Maybe i will finish this at next Praetorium run)

I love these! Doing the thicker eyebrows really helped make the face look more masculine.

I should actually post some screenshots of my other character (I have two actually, just only posted the one). Maybe do a draw-over for him, too. Honestly I feel like he looks more masculine than Jona (pink-haired bun) anyway, so people might be a bit more receptive.

[SturmChurro]

I know I'm late for this, but when I saw your post before, I did not post nothing because this thread is full with screenshots of my character (And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I was the first person who tried the "super mario" mustache on a viera). You can see my posts here:

first attempt: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...34#post5026334
current appearance: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post5056276
current appearance 2: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post5070417
EDIT: I forgot this one http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...03#post5062503

I'm working on a drawing too, but it's not finished yet (I was on Praetorium, I was really bored. Maybe i will finish this at next Praetorium run)

Wow! Did they add male viera in the most recent patch?!