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  1. #8231
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    Ygor Udoa-lotvyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
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    Radimir Avira
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    The population of the first =/= Source, isnt the same though. Or am I wrong? So female Hrothgar can be way more on the first, but less on the source. Vice versa for male Viera.
    The handsome old fella from the Gunbreaker quest in the Source mentioned that he had a wife and kid. He also mentioned his service under the queen who's either dead or injured.
    So I think the Females are rare blurp was basically just an excuse so they wouldn't have to create female models.
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    *sips tea, watches the male viera supporters continue to eat each other alive while waving a little sign that says:
    if we get them, yay. if we don't get them, yay.*
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  4. #8234
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    *sips tea, watches the male viera supporters continue to eat each other alive while waving a little sign that says:
    if we get them, yay. if we don't get them, yay.*
    Mind if I join you? I have cookies. Nice and sweet, good to go with the 'why is there talk about validation in my 'Ijustwantmalevierahelpmeplease' tea
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  5. #8235
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Yet that seems to be exactly what you're after. If you're not open to criticism, then you're only after praise - which may not be intentional on your part but that is most certainly how it came across.

    Alternative ideas were put forward as to how best to design a male character that resembles a viera male and they were shot down, so it doesn't seem like there's much desire for debate and discussion despite claims to the contrary.
    The "criticism" that was leveled at me was just a bunch of people saying "it's a she" and "I wouldn't RP with that" which is not terribly constructive. I'm not sure where you're seeing the constructive criticism there.
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  6. #8236
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berret_Snow View Post
    The handsome old fella from the Gunbreaker quest in the Source mentioned that he had a wife and kid. He also mentioned his service under the queen who's either dead or injured.
    So I think the Females are rare blurp was basically just an excuse so they wouldn't have to create female models.
    whereas male miqote and female roegadyn and highlanders were deliberate design choices at this point i honestly believe they just ran out of time and that we'll get them later
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  7. #8237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    Remember when this thread was just people asking for male Viera? Those were the days.
    Never forgetti.



    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    *sips tea, watches the male viera supporters continue to eat each other alive while waving a little sign that says:
    if we get them, yay. if we don't get them, yay.*
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Mind if I join you? I have cookies. Nice and sweet, good to go with the 'why is there talk about validation in my 'Ijustwantmalevierahelpmeplease' tea
    May I join in this corner? I can make us croissants and hot cocoa. >w>
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  8. #8238
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    Quote Originally Posted by alacruxe View Post
    The "criticism" that was leveled at me was just a bunch of people saying "it's a she" and "I wouldn't RP with that" which is not terribly constructive. I'm not sure where you're seeing the constructive criticism there.
    That's a bit deceptive, is it not? Other statements were made such as outlining a potential workaround using one of the male models as a base to design a male viera.

    Of course, it all circles back to the simple fact that they're not present in the game and may not even be added at all in the future. Most of the people posting in this thread want male viera to be added to the game. It's just that workarounds are largely irrelevant since they come with unfortunate baggage and aren't actually a viable solution in the eyes of many.

    At any rate, I think if male viera were ever added then something along these lines would be wonderful for their height, physique and facial features:



    Just stick on some bunny ears and we're sorted!
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    Last edited by Theodric; 07-15-2019 at 10:09 AM.

  9. #8239
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    Quote Originally Posted by alacruxe View Post
    The "criticism" that was leveled at me was just a bunch of people saying "it's a she" and "I wouldn't RP with that" which is not terribly constructive. I'm not sure where you're seeing the constructive criticism there.
    So to give you some context why your original post got the response that it did...

    There's a lot of people in this thread discussing what they would like male viera to look like, and what kind of body type they should have.
    There's:
    slim male viera vs. buff male viera
    male viera being slightly shorter than female viera vs. male viera being taller than female viera

    Whenever someone posts a picture of a slim male viera, whether that be their own artwork, something they found on the internet, or whatever, a few people in the buff camp will pick apart that post because it's not what they want.

    You were just being dragged into that nonsense.
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  10. #8240
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    So to give you some context why your original post got the response that it did...

    There's a lot of people in this thread discussing what they would like male viera to look like, and what kind of body type they should have.
    There's:
    slim male viera vs. buff male viera
    male viera being slightly shorter than female viera vs. male viera being taller than female viera

    Whenever someone posts a picture of a slim male viera, whether that be their own artwork, something they found on the internet, or whatever, a few people in the buff camp will pick apart that post because it's not what they want.

    You were just being dragged into that nonsense.
    I haven't seen that happen very often in this thread. I have, however, witnessed a lot of posters banding together to stamp out any effort to push for male viera to be tall and rugged to better reflect the harsh and reclusive lifestyles that they lead. Quite a few abhorrent insults have been hurled at those of us who aren't on board with short, slender, feminine and androgynous aesthetics for male viera too.
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