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    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    3. Don’t limit Limit Breaks to the last 5% of the final boss.
    So much this!!!! If you're on the last boss and that second (third) LB bar is full, USE THE LIMIT BREAK! It aint gonna fill up more than it's filled up! If that means using it when the boss has 95% HP left, USE IT! Guess what, you'll get at least another 1 bar LB before he's dead, maybe even a 2 bar LB.


    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    3. Mechanics aren’t just for cars.
    LIAR! *beepbeep* ^_^

    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Actually, if they die, then they can no longer contribute damage. This will make the run take longer. The reason they're pulling is because they want the run to go faster.
    If they want the run to go faster, stop doing things that result in the run taking longer. Don't put the group in a situation where people start dying.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The only "rule" for want of a better term I find silly is the whole "you spank it, you tank it" mentality. If you asked someone not to pull ahead of you and they continuously do, have at it then. You've at least tried to work with them. However, just outright refusing to pick up mobs because they aggro'd more isn't accomplishing anything. All you have done is given the healer more work. And no, you aren't "teaching them a lesson." Odds are if they're willing to pull for you, they couldn't care less.

    It's kind of the same philosophy as purposefully standing in AoEs because the healer isn't DPSing.
    "If you pull it, you tank it" is a common held stance across the entire MMO genre. It's not unique to FFXIV or WoW or EQ2. If you're not the tank, and you're pulling, you're not being a team player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    The rule that overrides all other rules is you do what your party wants or you get the kick.
    True, if you have the votes then you are "right" in practical terms.
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    Thanks for helping make the FFXIV community a fun and welcoming place. If you're not sure you have (and you very likely have), make it a point to be patient or helpful the next time you log in so that you can know you've made a difference.

    If you're on the Aether data center, congratulations! I might be your next exciting adventure healer in the Duty Finder. Please look forward to it.

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    If I had a gil for every time I've tanked adds as RDM in Alliance roulettes because tanks are too busy being blue icon DPS...More so now that Diversion is gone and Lucid no longer reduces enmity >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Anything you come up with, make sure to compare to the rules at: https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...6&id=5382&la=1

    Specifically these:



    You have to be very careful in the speech you use in groups. If someone construes one of your expressions as trying to compel them to play a certain way, or they feel left out within the community, or that you completely disagree with their opinion, you could face action on your account.

    Figured I've give the heads up as a sort of public service announcement.


    With that said, everything you said looks like commonsense to me. And I could agree with it. Though with the rules being what they are. I think I'll just keep all of my ingame 'experessions' to my private discord. Though thankfully your suggestion doesn't require anyone speaking in game.
    2 words

    **** sensitivity! if you act like a butthole and dont correct yourself i wont hesitate to take off my sugarcoated gloves and put my salt covered gloves and send you flying. and i wont give a damn if i hurt your feelings in the process princess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    The rule that overrides all other rules is you do what your party wants or you get the kick.
    try me. if im tanking and you pull ahead of me? tank it. if im a healer and you yell cuz im not dpsing then heal for me. if im a dps, thank god i dont play those, you best not complain cuz im dpsing xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    So much this!!!! If you're on the last boss and that second (third) LB bar is full, USE THE LIMIT BREAK! It aint gonna fill up more than it's filled up! If that means using it when the boss has 95% HP left, USE IT! Guess what, you'll get at least another 1 bar LB before he's dead, maybe even a 2 bar LB.
    For trials and raids, I would caution being liberal with LB3s. Yeah, it does a nice chunk of damage, but most of the time we're talking maybe a percentage or so off the boss' total HP. If you're early on in the fight and things go south within seconds, congratulations, you now have no Healer LB3. Know the risk, especially since this is pertaining to roulettes where you don't know how familiar your party is with the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonovanLifeweaver View Post
    2 words

    **** sensitivity! if you act like a butthole and dont correct yourself i wont hesitate to take off my sugarcoated gloves and put my salt covered gloves and send you flying. and i wont give a damn if i hurt your feelings in the process princess.
    You're going to last long. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    For trials and raids, I would caution being liberal with LB3s. Yeah, it does a nice chunk of damage, but most of the time we're talking maybe a percentage or so off the boss' total HP. If you're early on in the fight and things go south within seconds, congratulations, you now have no Healer LB3. Know the risk, especially since this is pertaining to roulettes where you don't know how familiar your party is with the fight.
    yeah that's why i out the lb things under dungeons rather than the general category but maybe i should be added something for raids to differentiate

    thank you for pointing out that distinction between dungeons and raids the expectations can be different and in turn through new players (or even just players new to raiding) off
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    Thanks for helping make the FFXIV community a fun and welcoming place. If you're not sure you have (and you very likely have), make it a point to be patient or helpful the next time you log in so that you can know you've made a difference.

    If you're on the Aether data center, congratulations! I might be your next exciting adventure healer in the Duty Finder. Please look forward to it.

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    Player DonovanLifeweaver's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The only "rule" for want of a better term I find silly is the whole "you spank it, you tank it" mentality. If you asked someone not to pull ahead of you and they continuously do, have at it then. You've at least tried to work with them. However, just outright refusing to pick up mobs because they aggro'd more isn't accomplishing anything. All you have done is given the healer more work. And no, you aren't "teaching them a lesson." Odds are if they're willing to pull for you, they couldn't care less.

    It's kind of the same philosophy as purposefully standing in AoEs because the healer isn't DPSing.
    actually in world of diablo 3 or Elders pay to pimp my horse. you can basicly tank in any classes and act like a an ass and still win. this mentality tends to be carryed over to ff14 by those who fled their previous mmo and dont like to be told that common still exists in eorzea. i apply the you pull it you tank it and akwardly enough i see alot of people thinking that the game is built on the same core rules of the game they left and usually end up bitching at me because they died trying to tank in dps or healing gears. while i watched spamming non aggro rotation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    For trials and raids, I would caution being liberal with LB3s. Yeah, it does a nice chunk of damage, but most of the time we're talking maybe a percentage or so off the boss' total HP. If you're early on in the fight and things go south within seconds, congratulations, you now have no Healer LB3. Know the risk, especially since this is pertaining to roulettes where you don't know how familiar your party is with the fight.
    The LB rule was under Dungeons. And I agree about trials. Especially EX trials. Wanna see how fast you can get kicked? Pop that LB3 as a Tank at an asinine moment. It might get a chuckle out of me for the trolling factor, but I'm still gonna click "Yes" when that vote to kick comes up.
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