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    Strea Leonhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    I honestly hated Dark Passenger 4800 MP for a blind? Great thanks. It was super situational and you used it maybe a handful of times in raids like O3S or O7S for adds other than that wasn't worth the cost associated with it I like FoS where I can even get a free one with TBN much more engaging than blowing half my mana for a mediocre blind.
    The solution was to buff the potency to justify the absurd MP cost but NOPE replacing it with a more quarter-baked skill seems to be the better alternative...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    The solution was to buff the potency to justify the absurd MP cost but NOPE replacing it with a more quarter-baked skill seems to be the better alternative...
    It's better than Dark Passenger, blind is pretty worthless it does 20 more potency at a better cost I don't get why you defend it when it wasn't very good at all, if I wanted to blind things I'd play old HW DRK when you could have used DP at a better cost with Dark Dance and it was only good in dungeons. Either way old DP was crap and I'm glad it's gone I like FoS, it's DP but does a smidge more damage and gives me Darkside, is it complex? No. Doesn't have to be. It's the natural evolution for DRK for DP because it was bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    It's better than Dark Passenger, blind is pretty worthless it does 20 more potency at a better cost I don't get why you defend it when it wasn't very good at all, if I wanted to blind things I'd play old HW DRK when you could have used DP at a better cost with Dark Dance and it was only good in dungeons. Either way old DP was crap and I'm glad it's gone I like FoS, it's DP but does a smidge more damage and gives me Darkside, is it complex? No. Doesn't have to be. It's the natural evolution for DRK for DP because it was bad.
    So you like sitting there doing nothing for 80 seconds waiting for Delirium to come off cooldown...? How is that interesting...? I seriously want to know. How is spamming the same 3 buttons waiting for for other buttons to come of cooldown, while also pressing 1 or 2 additional button in between, both fun and interesting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    So you like sitting there doing nothing for 80 seconds waiting for Delirium to come off cooldown...? How is that interesting...? I seriously want to know. How is spamming the same 3 buttons waiting for for other buttons to come of cooldown, while also pressing 1 or 2 additional button in between, both fun and interesting?
    I never mentioned Delirium in any of my posts but since you bring it up, do I dislike it? A little since it's a carbon copy of WARs IR but lesser, that's my opinion on it I do find value with BW and CnS despite DRK being slowed down I never liked old Delirium that extended BW DRK should be a heavy hitter and Delirium is a good base but it should't be so similar to WARs burst.

    There should have been another way to do their burst while fitting it in the burst window, because this game is all about burst DPS within certain party buffs, I don't mind playing DRK at all for many reasons just because you don't see that and find it boring doesn't mean that I agree. I play GNB and DRK and they're both a blast to play ones fast and ones a heavy hitter there's enough there to want me keep playing either because I love how FFXIV lets me switch on the fly at anytime I want.

    Do I wanna do Titania EX as a GNB? Nah I'll go DRK and see how I can DPS balls to the wall while using TBN effectively for DPS gains and mitigation and fitting my burst in, even if it is predictable, then I can switch out and go GNB for Innocence EX for a shake up. Yes I'm aware DRK only has a 1-2-3 and a 4 when you get blood but to me it's not as boring as other classes like I cannot for the life of me play Monk I loathe playing Monk, to me that's boring and I never wanna touch it but opinions are opinions and are ever changing I'm not trying to convince you play what you find interesting just like I'll play what I want to play.

    I know a lot of people aren't happy with Delirium and there are valid concerns I honestly don't know what they could do to make it better or unique exclusively to DRK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    So you like sitting there doing nothing for 80 seconds waiting for Delirium to come off cooldown...? How is that interesting...? I seriously want to know. How is spamming the same 3 buttons waiting for for other buttons to come of cooldown, while also pressing 1 or 2 additional button in between, both fun and interesting?
    I agree that spamming soul eater again is very disheartening, but the new skills help break it up. I think what would fix DRk's extreme downtime is just shortened CDs, like come on not everything needs to be an entire minute long. GNB feels fast (imo) because of the short cds, which really helps make the job feel like you're constantly pressing things even though you may just be pressing the same button. Like damn, imagine if gnashing fang was like a minute long CD. It realy sucks if they made DRK slow just because they want GNB to be the only fast tank. I'm leveling up PLD atm so I don't know if the new sword oath mechanic and confiteor skill helps break up the royal authority (after goring blade) spam because I'm already tired of seeing riot blade lol.
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