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  1. #81
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Insertcoins View Post
    And how would they KNOW? You LITERALLY can't know unless you're on PS4 aswell.
    While they don't know if someone play on PS4, there is a hint to know if someone play with a controller.
    Running left and right with side steps and doing backsteps - mostly a keyboard player
    Turning the body to the direction of the run - mostly a controller player (legacy control on controller is just so much better than standard control)

    Quote Originally Posted by MrKusakabe View Post
    Aside from the controlling issues (I hate the controller gameplay in this game), I can only spot PS4 players by them being stuck longer in loading instances or watching cutscenes longer due to quicker loading from my SSD.
    That only allow you to spot HDD users. You can change the HDD in a PS4 with a SSD.
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-12-2019 at 06:31 PM.

  2. #82
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    Naoki34's Avatar
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Party Finder is always going to be filled with recruiters having preferences that may not make sense to you. If you see something like that, just don't join 'em/form your own.

    This is also another reason why I wish the Raid Finder was more active. There's no expectations; it's a lot more relaxed.
    Between that and the "Run for friend" #PlsPL-Me
    Isn't very cool.

    And the farm are are composed of players who don't even know the strategy often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    They have no way of knowing what you're playing on. Just ignore it.
    The only way to see it is to be on Ps4 since the PSN ID is visible to all Ps4 users, but if he gets to see it, it's hypocrisy.

    There is also movement with the gamepad, but PC players also play the gamepad sometimes.
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    Last edited by Naoki34; 07-12-2019 at 06:16 PM.

  3. #83
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    As I said before, it is impossible for a run to turn into a walk because of a bad internet connection. That's simply not how TCP/IP works. That's akin to saying a Blizzard II going off because of a bad connection when the BLM used Blizzard III. They're two entirely different commands sent according to the server. But you all can believe what you want. I'm right either way.
    Yes, but what was being claimed, that "all PS4 users walk first then run" isn't true.

    The analogue stick has a sensitivity setting, where a half-push will walk, and a full push will run, but there's no latency between them on the PS4 end, it's literally as quick as you can push the analogue stick.

    What you've seen is down to player control, not PS4 limitations, someone has literally been pushing the stick slowly.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 07-12-2019 at 07:09 PM.

  4. #84
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    Doljax's Avatar
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    Hogelun Noykin
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    Tonberry
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Unless your sticks have been made/set to digital, we definitely can tell.
    No, you can't. You might find one or two, but I guarantee you do not, will not, and have not been able to tell the vast majority of the controls used by players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    M/KB players' characters start off sprinting and come to full stop when moving and stopping. Whereas controller players accelerate into a walk then run and likewise slow down when coming to a stop.
    No, they don't. Prove they do otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    What you see on your screen is different than what we see. There's no elitism there, just reporting what I see when someone uses a controller.
    Your connection is bad. You think they're walking, but they're running.
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    Last edited by Doljax; 07-12-2019 at 06:45 PM.
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    Dragoon is life,
    Dragoon is tanking the floor
    so we don't wipe.

  5. #85
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    Kaethra's Avatar
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doljax View Post
    No, you can't. You might find one or two, but I guarantee you do not, will not, and have not been able to tell the vast majority of the controls used by players.
    I already have. You can spout it didn't all you wish, but it doesn't change anything. Sorry, it is what it is. There's no evil conspiracy here, you all can rest assured that nothing malevolent is going on here. There isn't a nefarious plot against controllers. You are blowing this way out of proportion.

    A friend's brother used to primarily use a controller on both PS4 and PC (not sure why he had two copies, but that's his business). He functioned fine in the groups we were in.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I already have. You can spout it didn't all you wish, but it doesn't change anything. Sorry, it is what it is. There's no evil conspiracy here, you all can rest assured that nothing malevolent is going on here. There isn't a nefarious plot against controllers. You are blowing this way out of proportion.
    No proof. You're making it up, got it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    A friend's brother used to primarily use a controller on both PS4 and PC (not sure why he had two copies, but that's his business). He functioned fine in the groups we were in.
    Oh, an anecdote. I stand totally corrected, my most sincere apologies. I had forgotten that anecdotes make for the most accurate data.
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    Dragoon is love,
    Dragoon is life,
    Dragoon is tanking the floor
    so we don't wipe.

  7. #87
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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I already have. You can spout it didn't all you wish, but it doesn't change anything. Sorry, it is what it is. There's no evil conspiracy here, you all can rest assured that nothing malevolent is going on here. There isn't a nefarious plot against controllers. You are blowing this way out of proportion.

    A friend's brother used to primarily use a controller on both PS4 and PC (not sure why he had two copies, but that's his business). He functioned fine in the groups we were in.
    So it's finally here.
    Uploaded for you.
    If you have a controller, you can join in too!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSBxYhwSNGQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  8. #88
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Sagittarius
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by gumas View Post
    i play on pc so this kinda confused me. like whats stopping you from lying? yes they ask no ps4 scrubs yadayada, but they dont know right? even if you play with ps4 cant you just say "nah iam pc" or something like that?

    or does it show you like an icon or something that you are on console?
    If you play on PS4 and check others search info, there will be their PSN ID if they are on PS4 as well. So, in fact, to say that players are on PS, that PF-holder had to be on PS himself. And then he's rather... has no brains, I would say.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I don't have to listen to anyone. I've seen it. You all can believe what you want, but I've been able to ID controller users. Maybe my eyes are just keener, but its worked in the tests I've done. Sorry everyone is mistaken. It just is what it is.
    Just to be fair: I had serious problems with moving on previous controller. Character could walk when I wanted to run, or start moving without even my actions for it, or move in another direction at all. But: it was an actual DEVICE'S DEFECT. It wasn't normal thing and as soon as I changed the controller this problem disappeared.

    So wherever you see players with such weird movement problems - their controller is most likely defective. The chance to have such problems on keyboard is almost zero, of course, but it still has nothing to do with statement "controller/PS4 players start running by walking". It's not okay if they do, and they should check their device for defects if it's like this.
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  9. #89
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    So it's finally here.
    Uploaded for you.
    If you have a controller, you can join in too!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSBxYhwSNGQ
    Don't worry, I'm sure "keen eyes" will be able to spot something invisible to the rest of us.
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  10. #90
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I don't have to listen to anyone. I've seen it. You all can believe what you want, but I've been able to ID controller users. Maybe my eyes are just keener, but its worked in the tests I've done. Sorry everyone is mistaken. It just is what it is.
    What you've seen, is a couple of controller users who are running slowly due to slow analogue stick control, probably due to hesitation, or intention, or maybe a faulty device.

    This is akin to saying all gay guys are camp and talk with a lisp, because "every gay guy I've seen is camp with a lisp" completely oblivious to the fact that there are far more gay people you've come across without a lisp that you've completely discounted because you assumed they were straight.

    You don't have evidence, or anecdotal evidence, or observation, all you have is prejudice and have drawn false conclusions.
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