Expectations are ruining this game

[EmoPanther]

Only time I lookit guides is when I'm doing EX Trials. Generally speaking, the dungeons aren't hard enough to warrant them. At all. :/ I usually pick up on each boss fight about a 3rd of the way through. I don't bother telling new people mechanics for about the same reason. If i can piece it together from what I see, I expect them too as well.

[Nezic]

Sorry to hear about your experience. Although I do have a question where these are main popping up? Are you running normal dungeon content and normal trials? Because thats a little much for people to be upset about. However if you are running EX Trials or the savage version of raids, its probably best to have some idea of how mechanics works. Dont have to watch a video on how a fight works but being able to know the more tried and true look away, stack , etc are kinda mandatory.

Basically I 100% agree with you people need to chill out in dungeons and such. Unless its EX or Savage content then you should probably have some understanding of the mechanics.

[dapperfaffer]

So I started playing this game about 6 months ago with my fiance. Neither of us knew much of anything about it and that was a huge part of why I was so excited to play it.

But now, the expectation that you're supposed to look up and know everything about a dungeon before doing it is literally ruining it for me. I understand being frustrated when someone doesn't know the mechanics, trust me. But getting pissed off at someone for not knowing when it's their first time going through is so stupid.

Literally my fiance feels like they CAN'T tank a dungeon without memorizing the mechanics completely before going through because they know people who've done it before will get pissed off and yell at them for it.

I absolutely hate this bullshit. Let people learn as they go. You shouldn't have to research things before doing them.

There's going to be a lot of people that disagree with me, but FFXIV community has always been hyper toxic. Even as far back as 1.x when Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda were just coming out.

To share a story: Yesterday I did a Dohn Mehg and some Lafafell WHM from Malboro was complaining that it was their second group for the instance that was going to slow because the dps was trash. Which lead the SAM to respond by telling the WHM that they were sorry that they couldn't meet the WHMs expectations. Guess what the WHMS response was. The WHM straight up said that the SAM probably couldn't meet anyones expectations. And that has always been the way it is in this game. Its only hidden because of how aggressive SE is with dealing with that type of behavior.

[Conando]

I feel these people are a small, but vocal minority. I’m sure everyone gets a little annoyed by screw ups now and then, but rarely have I seen anyone be actively hostile. When they are, you can always report them because that’s not the kind of behavior the dev team actually tolerates.

[FoxyAreku]

Literally never seen this happen in my 6 years playing this game. Methinks OP had one bad dungeon group and assumed it was meant that way for everything instead of the people they got grouped with just being idiots.

[SamSmoot]

I won't run a dungeon unless I've studied it thoroughly. Watch videos, read text descriptions, and even run it with trust groups now.
I even review ones I haven't run in a while in the same way, which precludes roulettes, because I can't study them all before signing up.

This comes from my past WoW experience where, if you show the slightest sign that you're unfamiliar with it, or say you haven't run it before, you get kicked instantly.

[NessaWyvern]

There's going to be a lot of people that disagree with me, but FFXIV community has always been hyper toxic.

Yeah, I am one of those people :P Hyper toxic? How many online videogames have you played? I'd say that Rust has a hyper toxic community (very entertaining in small amounts), whereas FFXIV is rather mild, with far more people who would help, rather than harm someone. I have seen far more toxicity in FPS, and in other MMO's, such as WoW and Runescape XD Heck, I have seen more toxicity in minecraft servers.

[Callinon]

This comes from my past WoW experience where, if you show the slightest sign that you're unfamiliar with it, or say you haven't run it before, you get kicked instantly.

Who the hell are you doing content with where that's happening? In a dungeon? No way. Maybe like high mythic+ or a heroic raid if you join a party that requires a previous clear and then tell them you don't have one... that'll get you kicked, but you kinda asked for it going in.

WoW dungeons are even more faceroll than FFXIV's. There is zero chance people are kicking new players from those just for the "crime" of being new.

[Conando]

I won't run a dungeon unless I've studied it thoroughly. Watch videos, read text descriptions, and even run it with trust groups now.
I even review ones I haven't run in a while in the same way, which precludes roulettes, because I can't study them all before signing up.

This comes from my past WoW experience where, if you show the slightest sign that you're unfamiliar with it, or say you haven't run it before, you get kicked instantly.

Geez, WoW sounds like a real pleasure. I’ve never seen anyone get kicked, in XIV, unless they are actively ruining a run and not trying to improve after given advice.

[Skivvy]

There's going to be a lot of people that disagree with me, but FFXIV community has always been hyper toxic. Even as far back as 1.x when Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda were just coming out.

To share a story: Yesterday I did a Dohn Mehg and some Lafafell WHM from Malboro was complaining that it was their second group for the instance that was going to slow because the dps was trash. Which lead the SAM to respond by telling the WHM that they were sorry that they couldn't meet the WHMs expectations. Guess what the WHMS response was. The WHM straight up said that the SAM probably couldn't meet anyones expectations. And that has always been the way it is in this game. Its only hidden because of how aggressive SE is with dealing with that type of behavior.

Obviously anecdotal, but the other night I was doing the normal raid roulette, end up in Eyes of the Creator (where you have to match up the power-ball to the lifeless adds). Anyway, at one point one of the adds got pulled away from the platform they needed to be on, and we were graced with the following:

WHAT THE F*** ARE YOU DOING
STOP GO BACK
YOU F****** IDIOT

Tis paraphrased - the whole thing was actually longer (about 6 lines or so). But it came completely out of the blue and was incredibly unnecessary.

With that said, I do think MOST people are patient and understanding, some may be helpful, but there are definitely plenty of people out there with incredibly short-fuses who probably shouldn't be playing with other people.