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  1. #141
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    ColeSlawter's Avatar
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    Cole Slawter
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lascivus View Post
    Like I said, I understand the frustration. But I'm the kind of person who doesn't want to know ANYTHING before doing something. Even with raids. I don't want to know. If you can't handle new people not knowing, then you need to reevaluate yourself. Or like. Explain how it works before jumping in. The game literally tells you that there are new people when you start.
    You want to go in not knowing "ANYTHING" but then you ask somebody to "Explain how it works"?

    That sounds kind of lazy. If you want/expect somebody to tell you what to do then you should be researching beforehand. If you want to figure it out on your own, then go blind but don't expect others to hold your hand. Nothing wrong with wanting to figure it out yourself either.
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  2. #142
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    Makeda's Avatar
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 90
    On my “old main” I have all the ore shadowbringers tanks and healers at 70. So the roles people tend to be watching. Rarely see this issue and I have a habit of doing content without checking a guide first. Just charge in, best with a WAR, act like a maniac and act like you know what you’re doing... but pay a lot of attention to tells: mob animations and ground effects. And a slight oops when you goof.

    Peopke in this game tend to be pretty cool about it.

    Anytime they are not I just note that, 1 bad group every 100 or so is pretty good...
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  3. #143
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    Lunavi's Avatar
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    Luna Nattvind
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Never heard of this outside of high end trials/raids in case you join clear or farm groups via PF or DF. If that happens it is a huge problem and if it makes you feel uncomfortable, either ask them to vote kick you or leave on your own accord, you will be very unlikely to run into toxic people like that often enough that it should be a problem.
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  4. #144
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    Conquistadork's Avatar
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    Mao Mao
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ColeSlawter View Post
    You want to go in not knowing "ANYTHING" but then you ask somebody to "Explain how it works"?

    That sounds kind of lazy. If you want/expect somebody to tell you what to do then you should be researching beforehand. If you want to figure it out on your own, then go blind but don't expect others to hold your hand. Nothing wrong with wanting to figure it out yourself either.
    This.

    Yesterday did a blind run of the lvl 77 dungeon and while I did said to my party that I was new, I didn't expected them to tell me how to deal with the boss fights. It was really nice trying to figure it out by myslef and it felt really rewarding learning from my mistakes in the fight.

    I used to watch dungeon videos everytime before doing them but in SHB I went blind in all of the dungeons so far and I'm really enjoying it more that way.

    EX and raids on the other hand, I still watch the guides.
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    Last edited by Conquistadork; 07-13-2019 at 02:21 AM.

  5. #145
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    Aniond's Avatar
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    Siolenas Darkleaf
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    Zalera
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    Dragoon Lv 76
    I just dont tell them.
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  6. #146
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    BarbaricImpact's Avatar
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    Justice Shirogane
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 80

    as a PLD and WHM Main...

    I think a lot of the fun is experiencing things for the first time, including mechanics. Although i hate having to sit through cutscenes in the msq duty finder, its great not to ruin the experience for new people. A free company, and announcing that your new should help with your experience. There are only a small percentage of people who are like those who you described. Make sure you have the correct gear on, and eventually you'll be fine. We all started from the same place (well minus the jump potions and story skips now, we've all gone through this at some point or another. Enjoy !
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    Last edited by BarbaricImpact; 07-13-2019 at 05:22 AM.
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  7. #147
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    Chevronone's Avatar
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    O-o O-o
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    Brynhildr
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    Marauder Lv 1
    I've been tanking in this game since 2.1 and ive literally never watched a video about new content before ive gone in for the first time. Never had any issues.
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  8. #148
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    Noitems's Avatar
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Conquistadork View Post

    I used to watch dungeon videos everytime before doing them but in SHB I went blind in all of the dungeons so far and I'm really enjoying it more that way.

    EX and raids on the other hand, I still watch the guides.
    Gotta agree with this tenfold. The difficulty of dungeons when you figure out the mechanics are really simple. By Shadowbringers we've generally seen so many different kinds so now a new dungeon run is just seeing which one they implement and the twist that's put on it. Like for me the first boss of the LVL 80 MSQ dungeon is perfect for this. It's a mechanic we've seen in both alliance raids and in dungeons, killing you if you don't know what to do. The twist really being how the huge aoe (which you'll have enough time to dodge) comes immediately after.

    All of them are like putting a puzzle together and the worst case is you'll wipe but come back swinging with new info.

    EX and Savage raids there are expectations to be met so watching guides in those cases is the best option for more uptime.
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  9. #149
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    Areic's Avatar
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    Areic Davrun
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I don't care if you haven't looked up something. Play the game to have fun

    Just don't be one of those people who pops into a random group and gets pissed when someone explains mechanics. If you want a blind run go do a blind run
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  10. #150
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    Amaterasu_'s Avatar
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    Alice Amaterasu
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 75
    Whenever it's my first run in a dungeon and think it is difficult I always tell the party that I am new.
    They actually always explain the dungeon mechanics to me or boss mechanics.
    I never encountered any negativity so far.
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