Hoping for a slight Abyssal Drain CD reduction.

[ADVSS]

For something that cost 1/3 of your mana pool and having a 90s cd, its pretty awful. When you do use it, its pretty nice, but are the returns anywhere near the LIFEsustain of old AD?

[Martine]

For something that cost 1/3 of your mana pool and having a 90s cd, its pretty awful. When you do use it, its pretty nice, but are the returns anywhere near the LIFEsustain of old AD?

It's 60sec and doesn't require MP.

[ADVSS]

It's 60sec and doesn't require MP.

And you want it reduced to what and cost the same?

[Martine]

And you want it reduced to what and cost the same?

I mentioned it in the OP, but I feel like 45 seconds would make it feel a lot better than the current 60 as it feels just a bit too long atm.

[ADVSS]

I mentioned it in the OP, but I feel like 45 seconds would make it feel a lot better than the current 60 as it feels just a bit too long atm.

Yeah Id probably rely on it more if it were off cd sooner, agree.

I think if the cooldown were much shorter I'd feel compelled to use it for the damage on trash instead of the healing. Right now I'm using it to heal myself up once I hit the wall and all the mobs are catching up to me. That part feels pretty good.

YOOOOOOO that 1 use of it in mega pulls is pretty nice...till you realize thats all you got. Esteem should really give us a little hp or something from using his as well, outside of a mega pull, using either seems very, very very very unimpactful, Tend to forget about them otherwise. Such LOOONG CD

[Typhoria]

With the current design I think they are wanting to keep the tank healing cooldowns on the same timer.

Warrior equilibrium is an immediate 1200 potency heal oGCD with no damage.
Gunbreaker is a 1200 oGCD potency heal over 18s.
Paladin requires either hard casting or using their DPS burst CD to heal which still occupies the GCD.
Dark Knight is the only one with damage associated with it, dealing equal potency healing as Warrior/Gunbreaker at 6 targets.

[Martine]

With the current design I think they are wanting to keep the tank healing cooldowns on the same timer.

Warrior equilibrium is an immediate 1200 potency heal oGCD with no damage.
Gunbreaker is a 1200 oGCD potency heal over 18s.
Paladin requires either hard casting or using their DPS burst CD to heal which still occupies the GCD.
Dark Knight is the only one with damage associated with it, dealing equal potency healing as Warrior/Gunbreaker at 6 targets.

It's a good observation, though the downside is that we don't always have 6 targets, so it can fairly often be the weakest of the sustain. WAR, GNB, and PLD heals are all just as capable on bosses.

Edit: I should mention that I'm cool with the others having better boss self heals, I would just like a bit off my previous AoE sustain back.

[Danelo]

It’s been forever that DRKs have asked for AD to be worked out to be as effective in single target as it is in dungeon pulls but it hasn’t happened. I’m not optimistic but you could do other things: I’d take a buff to SE. Something like SE will give a dh crit heal while dark side is active. I wouldn’t think it be game breaking and would make up the difference between effectiveness in the other heals over time. It wouldn’t take an overhaul, just a trait, and wouldn’t change the flow.

[Acidblood]

It's a good observation, though the downside is that we don't always have 6 targets, so it can fairly often be the weakest of the sustain. WAR, GNB, and PLD heals are all just as capable on bosses.

Edit: I should mention that I'm cool with the others having better boss self heals, I would just like a bit off my previous AoE sustain back.

Question: How well does TBN work vs. Savage / Extreme bosses?

I ask because in dungeons, vs. a small pack or a boss, I find TBN to be incredibly effective, so while AD may not heal for much in these situations, if I use TBN correctly I find that I don't take nearly as much damage to begin with.