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    Sylvaria Molkot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    Even then you still have the 460pot initial hit, making it 184 PPS (basically an instant F4). IIRC, so long as you do not use the T4P to refresh the DoT when it has more than 12s(?) remaining it is a DPS gain to use.
    How do you get 460?

    24s / 3 = 8 ticks * 40 = 320 + 70 = 390pot initial hit.

    The original assertion is that:
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    As for Thundercloud procs, it's always a DPS gain to just use it as soon as it pops up, even if you're in AF. Well, presuming using it won't cause you to drop Enochian.
    This is not true (as far as I can tell). Contextually Thundercloud is worth using, as you said, to refresh Thunder past a certain point, but if you already have 100% Thunder uptime (as per the rotation) then using additional TC procs is not worth it (unless I’m missing something) and thus they are wasted.
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    Lucius Magnus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidblood View Post
    How do you get 460?

    24s / 3 = 8 ticks * 40 = 320 + 70 = 390pot initial hit.

    The original assertion is that:


    This is not true (as far as I can tell). Contextually Thundercloud is worth using, as you said, to refresh Thunder past a certain point, but if you already have 100% Thunder uptime (as per the rotation) then using additional TC procs is not worth it (unless I’m missing something) and thus they are wasted.
    The 460 is the 390 of the full DoT potency added to the initial attack as that's how the Thundercould Proc works. You're thinking it's just a simple reapplication of the normal DoT, it is not.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Numenor1379 View Post
    The 460 is the 390 of the full DoT potency added to the initial attack as that's how the Thundercould Proc works. You're thinking it's just a simple reapplication of the normal DoT, it is not.
    You're double counting the initial potency. Only the DoT portion is actually added to the hit.
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