Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

I'm not interested in dimorphism for the sake of dimorphism. I'm even less interested in male viera being hijacked by those who want to take a stand against gender stereotypes. I'm generally not a fan of real world issues being projected onto the game in general, though - especially when it boasts players from all over the world and from many different cultures; some of which aren't all that invested in 'outrage culture' to begin with.

[MOZZYSTAR]

How exactly is it a gender stereotype when the vii have multiple different viera with completely different personalities. Some are fighters some aren't, like real life. Christ almighty. Everyone has to be offended.

It's a stereotype based on female beauty standards in at least two realms of the globe: Asian and Western continents. And yes, it is offensive when vii/viera are supposed to be darker-skinned, very strong and independent female warriors. We only had one "dark" skinned female NPC in pretty much the entire SHB storyline, and she wasn't even as dark as the viera in XII where Vii/Viera were inspired from (based on SE comments). Not only that, but they gave female viera the OK because scantily clad women with bunny ears (ahem, playboy bunny and such) but heaven forbid if men can be scantily clad with bunny ears.

I'm not interested in dimorphism for the sake of dimorphism. I'm even less interested in male viera being hijacked by those who want to take a stand against gender stereotypes. I'm generally not a fan of real world issues being projected onto the game in general, though - especially when it boasts players from all over the world and from many different cultures; some of which aren't all that invested in 'outrage culture' to begin with.

It's not so much about taking a stand against gender stereotypes, it's more about diversity. If we want to see more than just "hyur with animal features," then certain things like dimorphism should be shaken up to make a race more unique. And, unfortunately for you, Theo, RL issues are definitely in the game - and that's excluding the gender stereotypes I mentioned above. They have homosexuality present in the game (not just marriages for PCs, but gay NPCs as well). They have a theory that parallels some of our current issues (not social) as presented in SHB but I won't digress because spoilers. They have social caste issues between the poor and the 1%. You'd have to be pretty blind to not see that FF covers various topics that are relevant to every day life. All of their games reflect some issue that's happening in the real world. Just look at FF9 - great example.

[SturmChurro]

It's a stereotype based on female beauty standards in at least two realms of the globe: Asian and Western continents. And yes, it is offensive when vii/viera are supposed to be darker-skinned, very strong and independent female warriors. We only had one "dark" skinned female NPC in pretty much the entire SHB storyline, and she wasn't even as dark as the viera in XII where Vii/Viera were inspired from (based on SE comments). Not only that, but they gave female viera the OK because scantily clad women with bunny ears (ahem, playboy bunny and such) but heaven forbid if men can be scantily clad with bunny ears.

Beauty standards? I don't know about you, but fat viera wouldn't make any sense and their body right now makes total sense given the physical activity they do.

It's like a girls not allowed to be pretty anymore.

[manickitty]

I'm not interested in dimorphism for the sake of dimorphism. I'm even less interested in male viera being hijacked by those who want to take a stand against gender stereotypes. I'm generally not a fan of real world issues being projected onto the game in general, though - especially when it boasts players from all over the world and from many different cultures; some of which aren't all that invested in 'outrage culture' to begin with.

How about variety because people want it? We already have multiple buff/ripped/elegant male body types.

[LittleChickenNugget]

How about variety because people want it? We already have multiple buff/ripped/elegant male body types.

If we're going that route again, we also already have multiple slimmer/cutesy/skinny male body types.
Lalafell, Midlander, Elezen, Miqo'te.

[Awha]

How about variety because people want it? We already have multiple buff/ripped/elegant male body types.

If variety was a true concern for the community when it came to races then we should get another lala size race and forget Viera.

[zeylos]

I'm not interested in dimorphism for the sake of dimorphism. I'm even less interested in male viera being hijacked by those who want to take a stand against gender stereotypes. I'm generally not a fan of real world issues being projected onto the game in general, though - especially when it boasts players from all over the world and from many different cultures; some of which aren't all that invested in 'outrage culture' to begin with.

idk what u mean by hijacked, SE will do the race as they want. Real world issues shouldnt be projected into the game ofc, but real life ppl should be represented on the game, and the only type of culture that dosent get any representation is that 'outrage' culture u talk about, still, I do agree that I hate dysphormism for dysphormism, and I think that male viera, at least body type wise, should look rather masculine to go with their lore, just like how the female's are masculine in personality and looks

[SturmChurro]

idk what u mean by hijacked, SE will do the race as they want. Real world issues shouldnt be projected into the game ofc, but real life ppl should be represented on the game, and the only type of culture that dosent get any representation is that 'outrage' culture u talk about, still, I do agree that I hate dysphormism for dysphormism, and I think that male viera, at least body type wise, should look rather masculine to go with their lore, just like how the female's are masculine in personality and looks

Again, you have literally no idea what you are talking about when it comes to masculinity. Female viera don't have "masculine" emotes or a personality. I already quoted your post where you called them "masculine" before.

And if people wanted to play muscular races that are huge then they can play Hrothgar, Roes, Au Ra. If someone wants to play tall and slightly less muscular then they can play Elezen. And if you want to play middle sized men with muscles you have Highlanders. Honestly you can use the argument for any of the races and for any wishes someone has.

Male Au Ra are tall, not 'huge' in the sense you are trying to convey. I don't know exactly what the point you are trying to make is here.

[zeylos]

Again, you have literally no idea what you are talking about when it comes to masculinity. Female viera don't have "masculine" emotes or a personality. I already quoted your post where you called them "masculine" before.

Male Au Ra are tall not huge in the sense you are trying to convey. I don't know exactly what the point you are trying to make is here.

They are leaders, assertive, aggressive etc. Femeninity has nothing to do with looks, and I meant personality. Whats your obsession with women have to be femenine and me nmasculine lol

[SturmChurro]

They are leaders, assertive, aggressive etc. Femeninity has nothing to do with looks, and I meant personality. Whats your obsession with women have to be femenine and me nmasculine lol

So if a woman is a leader they are masculine? I am trying to correct you since you have been going on and on about it for several posts, as if stating it as fact.