Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Komarimono]

Answer it or not, it'll remind them the issue is not going to vanish!

"We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive!"

Figured would plagiarize a movie to give it a good vibe.

[Mylionare]

Answer it or not, it'll remind them the issue is not going to vanish!

Maybe a question like: Will there be more insight into the culture and society of most non-ronka Viis?

or

What was the most difficult aspect of adapting both the viera and ronso into XIV's lore and story.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Answer it or not, it'll remind them the issue is not going to vanish!

Is the question on sales related to the Viera? Dont know why, felt a little out of place when the main question is about getting the Genders.

What was the most difficult aspect of adapting both the viera and ronso into XIV's lore and story.

Id actually like an answer to this one :3

[Lauront]

Nothing stopping you from asking.

That said, yes, I consider the issue of the sales to be related to the addition of the missing genders, as the company is likelier to consider it if there is profit to be made out of their addition, to justify the cost.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Nothing stopping you from asking.

That said, yes, I consider the issue of the sales to be related to the addition of the missing genders, as the company is likelier to consider it if there is profit to be made out of their addition, to justify the cost.

Ok good, Im not crazy and reading between the lines.
That being said, if Yoshi already said "Its not an issue that can be solved with more people or money" I don't think Sales of ShB will exactly solve it or get the Genders quicker.

[official_coconut]

I saw this on twitter, there's other fan art that shows up in the tag but not sure if its safe to post/link. The artist of this one is @lyquid_parade. It seems people have not dropped the topic there either since the latest tweets referencing them seems to have been made within the last few days, though this drawing was made in July.

[Lauront]

Ok good, Im not crazy and reading between the lines.
That being said, if Yoshi already said "Its not an issue that can be solved with more people or money" I don't think Sales of ShB will exactly solve it or get the Genders quicker.

Ah, but he did say it was a resource issue because they would struggle to maintain their current patch cycle given existing resource availability. All he said is that it could not be simply solved by throwing more money or manpower at it. Not that those aren't factors, especially when he went on to name debugging and QA as the specific areas that were posing a problem. However one slices it up, it does in fact resolve back to those issues, just not in a straightforward manner (i.e. SE is unwilling to go out and hire a team of contingent QAs for a short period of time, or to contract the work out, etc.)

However, it doesn't matter what the root of the problem is - if there's no money involved in solving it, SE is less likely to even bother. Whereas if there is profit to be made, there is a greater incentive to find a way to resolve these issues. Thus the question is articulated in that way. If SE saw that ShB failed to generate much interest and too few people cared about the new races to make them financially viable, they could draw the inference that the money is best utilised elsewhere.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Ah, but he did say it was a resource issue because they would struggle to maintain their current patch cycle given existing resource availability. All he said is that it could not be simply solved by throwing more money or manpower at it. Not that those aren't factors, especially when he went on to name debugging and QA as the specific areas that were posing a problem. However one slices it up, it does in fact resolve back to those issues, just not in a straightforward manner (i.e. SE is unwilling to go out and hire a team of contingent QAs for a short period of time, or to contract the work out, etc.)

However, it doesn't matter what the root of the problem is - if there's no money involved in solving it, SE is less likely to even bother. Whereas if there is profit to be made, there is a greater incentive to find a way to resolve these issues. Thus the question is articulated in that way. If SE saw that ShB failed to generate much interest and too few people cared about the new races to make them financially viable, they could draw the inference that the money is best utilised elsewhere.

The root of the Problem is the biggest point..... Otherwise, we'd just have both Genders and Yoshi could outright tell us they are coming & they just aren't done yet. Money wouldn't be the Obstacle, nor would it be the solution, or the Motivation. They could just do it if there isn't a root problem as explained.
There would literally be no point or benefit to telling us there are hurdles that are preventing this from happening, and then saying "They can't make Promises, or they can't outright say No" They would have already had an answer....like how they were able to tell us that The Hrothgar are built differently from the other races, therefor they would get Unique Hairstyles exclusive to them. Outright telling us that any hairstyles we have collected will not be useable for the race, because of how the heads were made.

[Gwenorai]

The root of the Problem is the biggest point..... Otherwise, we'd just have both Genders and Yoshi could outright tell us they are coming & they just aren't done yet. Money wouldn't be the Obstacle, nor would it be the solution, or the Motivation. They could just do it if there isn't a root problem as explained.
There would literally be no point or benefit to telling us there are hurdles that are preventing this from happening, and then saying "They can't make Promises, or they can't outright say No" They would have already had an answer....like how they were able to tell us that The Hrothgar are built differently from the other races, therefor they would get Unique Hairstyles exclusive to them. Outright telling us that any hairstyles we have collected will not be useable for the race, because of how the heads were made.

This is what makes me scream though, I want to know the issue that's stopping it. I remember specifically he said there were certain obstacles that were holding them back and if his team can get around said reasons then they would be implemented. The only issues I see is literally the lore they've written and possible story they have planned. Do they have plans where the male Viera and female Ronso will be playing a big role in the future? And thus, sadly being a selling point? This is what bothers me. Because I can certainly imagine that on the source that a male Viera would be revealed by being a captain of the resistance group of Viera and the people of Ivalice. While the Queen of the Ronso, will also be part of a future quest where we will need to save her for which we start a political alliance with her homeland and Eorzea.

That's what my mind is going - I think they've written themselves into a hole, that they can't get out of at this current time.

In regards to the male Viera I think this is likely because the Ra'tika wood seems to be a mirror of Viera's wood in the source. The information of Zodiark could also be here in the woodland. Hades looked like Zodiark form in FF12. And of course, that Zodiark was hidden in Ivalice. I can certainly imagine Zenos making his way there in order to acquire what he's looking for. As for the Ronso queen, we know she has been taken by the empire and possibly killed - this leads to a story where we will more than likely have to either find her, or protect her successor.

[Lauront]

The root of the Problem is the biggest point..... Otherwise, we'd just have both Genders and Yoshi could outright tell us they are coming & they just aren't done yet. Money wouldn't be the Obstacle, nor would it be the solution, or the Motivation. They could just do it if there isn't a root problem as explained.
There would literally be no point or benefit to telling us there are hurdles that are preventing this from happening, and then saying "They can't make Promises, or they can't outright say No" They would have already had an answer....like how they were able to tell us that The Hrothgar are built differently from the other races, therefor they would get Unique Hairstyles exclusive to them. Outright telling us that any hairstyles we have collected will not be useable for the race, because of how the heads were made.

Sorry but I don't think you're grasping what I am saying. They are a profit-seeking enterprise. Not a charity. You are solely focusing on one single issue to the detriment of everything else. Money IS an obstacle if the feature's addition would cost them on net, which it could if demand doesn't cover the costs of any possible solution that they devise. I am not disputing that there is a "root problem" (which as I said, amounts to the costs; he is just saying they cannot be reduced in a straightforward manner, not that they're not the issue); what I am disputing is that they will consider adding them if the feature is detrimental to their revenues.

I am thus satisfied with how I phrased the question.

This is what makes me scream though, I want to know the issue that's stopping it. I remember specifically he said there were certain obstacles that were holding them back and if his team can get around said reasons then they would be implemented. The only issues I see is literally the lore they've written and possible story they have planned. Do they have plans where the male Viera and female Ronso will be playing a big role in the future? And thus, sadly being a selling point? This is what bothers me. Because I can certainly imagine that on the source that a male Viera would be revealed by being a captain of the resistance group of Viera and the people of Ivalice. While the Queen of the Ronso, will also be part of a future quest where we will need to save her for which we start a political alliance with her homeland and Eorzea.

That's what my mind is going - I think they've written themselves into a hole, that they can't get out of at this current time.

In regards to the male Viera I think this is likely because the Ra'tika wood seems to be a mirror of Viera's wood in the source. The information of Zodiark could also be here in the woodland. Hades looked like Zodiark form in FF12. And of course, that Zodiark was hidden in Ivalice. I can certainly imagine Zenos making his way there in order to acquire what he's looking for. As for the Ronso queen, we know she has been taken by the empire and possibly killed - this leads to a story where we will more than likely have to either find her, or protect her successor.

I think the problem is that they cannot expand their team in a straightforward manner. There are solutions to the problems he posed but they may come with downsides SE is not comfortable with assuming. As to the plot point...

...they don't need an excuse to add them. They just added Au Ra by fiat, even though their lore connections to any existing material at the time were tangential, at best. Bear in mind Gabranth acquired Construct 7, with its considerable teleportation powers, should they wish to put that to use, and now Zenos will begin his "hunt" for finding a way to merge with a deity, who will in all likelihood put an end to his hubris and end up dominating him instead. Hydaelyn, being ensconced in the Aetherial Sea, is definitely easier to track down than Zodiark, who he's probably aiming for and who was expelled from the planet and is referred to dwelling in the "Abyss" by Hydaelyn which is probably some location connected to the moon in some fashion, much like the Aetherial Sea is at the centre of the star. What may indeed lurk beneath Ivalice is further knowledge about the two gods. The High Seraph was a rather odd entity, about which we know little, so I'm not ruling out the presence of more knowledge residing there one bit. Just bear in mind Rak'Tika is Gridania's equivalent and not Golmore's. Of course the Source has endured multiple Calamities, which have probably altered its geography in some ways, but the regions' maps are still similar; population dispersion just appears to be different. Nonetheless, there is enough in the lore to allow for a Zenos visit to the territory, and the Source's version of Dalmasca and its surrounding territories may house ancient knowledge that has survived the Calamities.

I am a bit concerned that we will entirely sidetrack Ilsabard and many other unknown zones on the Source, especially if this world-hopping thing proves to be a trend, but I'm confident they will want to disperse those clouds on the map in due course, so we may see an Ilsabard/Sharlayan expansion before resuming our otherworldly travels. However, I think it's all tangential to mViera/fHrothgar as it's not a necessity for their addition - it'd just be a nice way to do it.

I don't think they wrote themselves in a corner. They wrote it in a way that if they were never to come out, everything is all good, and if they were to be implemented they could just write it to work later. The Empire is on the decline anyway.

Emet-Selch is dead, the emperor is dead, and Zenos doesn't care about it past what he can make use of for his hunt. If anything I see the empire breaking up, or reforming later. We will need a new big bad though.

On that...

I'd say reformation but on a friendlier basis is the likelihood, if they avoid the unfortunate outcome of off-screen destruction. Maybe with Gaius as the leader. They have plenty of room for antagonists, because the Hydaelyn/Zodiark plot arc will run into 6.0 and maybe 7.0, and we already know there are otherworldly civilisations and monstrosities outside the Source and its Reflections which pose a threat in their own right, whether that involves some Ascian "nudging" - or not - in addition to any lingering native threats that reside on the Source. I don't think they need the Empire as a plot device for further exploration of the Viera and Hrothgar's homelands, in any case. It could be a fruitful conduit for it, but hardly a necessary one.