Normal dungeons are utterly trivial, especially now with TP removal

[Nobuyuki_Sanada]

Dungeons were always trivial its easy content.
If your running out of MP during trash pulls your not using lucid enough.
It is very annoying that if the creature dies during my cast I lost my entire GCD on casters, but this is not a dungeon problem this is a casting problem.

[DynnDiablos]

Here comes Milly again with ANOTHER complaint topic. You must be real fun at parties.

[Millybonk]

Here is the reality: normal dungeons were always trivial. TP removal didn't make it more trivial, because it already was trivial. Unless you're running with absolutely hopeless people, that is.

I know they were trivial, but you were still limited by the TP costs of your AoEs, thus smaller pulls in general, and even with the now removed TP-gain abilities you were still running dry rather quickly.

Now with a capable heal + tank you can pull everything up to the first artificial barrier in the dungeon, nuke everything down, repeat.

[ScarboroughFairy]

There are very few instances where I have run out of TP for this to be considered an issue on a physical Job, even without the use of Invigorate/Tactician. And I've leveled all physical classes in SB to max except Machinist (though, that one's looking damn good right now). TP was approaching uselessness long before 5.0 dropped and, really, those times where I was starved for TP was when the pulls took too long to die because someone else wasn't doing their part.

I did, however starve for MP constantly as a SCH because of my crippling Miasma II addiction. May it rest in peace.

[Millybonk]

Here comes Milly again with ANOTHER complaint topic. You must be real fun at parties.

Are you a stalker like Ralts, with the same M.O. of being compelled to post when you don't even care about a topic?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I'd also like to point out that we've been speed running dungeons and pulling wall to wall since wanderers palace normal, the first nonstory level 50 dungeon you unlock. It was even an event at the first fanfest, speed run times of wanderers normal.

We were able to do that dungeon in less than 15 minutes back then, in i90 gear.

Then came brayflox hard mode, same thing.

Are you a stalker like Ralts, with the same M.O. of being compelled to post when you don't even care about a topic?

It doesn't take a stalker to recognize a name, especially one that's new and has only posted negative topics.

[Gula]

Do you know what's actually sad: posting in a thread you clearly have no intention to contribute to with a comment void of an actual argument.

Is someone upset someone didn't immediately agree to their post?

[Millybonk]

Is someone upset someone didn't immediately agree to their post?

I despise posts without arguments in a thread about a defined topic.

Though intriguing how you question my intention and silently omitted the post I was answering to, which is void of an actual argument.

[Doozer]

If you have nothing to argue why are you even in here, if, as you claim, "You're faced with my constant bickering"?

Highly illogical to go to the thread and post, right?

To be fair, you posted the thread and now are only arguing with people that think the thread is stupid (sans one post I think). You're contributing about the same amount.

And on topic, since I wouldn't want to get shredded by the Almighty Topic Creator, being able to AoE safely as a melee DPS or tank is a nice change. People pushed dungeons to their limits to be trivial anyway, whether they were by default or not. Get over it.

[HyoMinPark]

Outside of a few dungeons, most have always been trivial. The only ones that I can remember posing any challenge was The Vault during HW, Bardam’s Mettle (some pulls, not all) during SB, Doma Castle, and Castrum Abania. And the “expert” dungeons were a joke. This is really nothing new.