Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
Since there's never going to be a complete agreement on this "discussion" until they either A) completely remove healer damage or B) turn healers into primarily DPS with healing capabilities, neither of which would solve the issue either, I'm just going to say this and I'm out:

Expecting every random person you come across to perform to your standards is really kind of asinine. Everybody is different and everybody has a different reason for playing the way they do. As long as they're not actively, intentionally making the run difficult then there really shouldn't be that much animosity when your run takes 15 minutes instead of 12 and no, not DPSing as healer isn't intentionally ruining your run. This applies to every class too, not just healers.
This sounds nice to say, but won't work in practice. Here's why. Lets take that healer that will use nothing but heals. The reason they are playing that way is irrelevant whether its choice, disability, knowledge, whatever. At the end it doesn't matter. Lets look at how many actions they are taking in a run and apply that to the other three players.

Chances are that will not be a successful run. We're not talking a run taking 15 minutes instead of 12. We're talking a run that will fail because it takes in excess of 90 minutes. Much less probably even completing encounters. Think about that for a moment. You take that healer who only has to heal once every 20 seconds or so and imagine if the DPS were using a few attacks every 20 seconds. Or the tank, even with the increased enmity of tank stance would likely not be able to hold off threat on even a mediocre dps or the healer that is healing them.

But for some reason, healers by the virtue of being healers are given a pass. I request an explanation of why this is. Why it is one person can play a way that if the entire group (or even half the group) sets up not only an overly protracted dungeon run, but a high chance of failure?

But this is why I hold people to a standard. The same standard I hold myself and others. It is both just and equal.