Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Lauront]

With the certain...behavior that tends to follow male Miqo'te and Hrothgar, I really do think the reasonings for wanting male Viera are less "for the players" than a lot of people are letting on. SE should either consider upping the rating of the game to M or removing male Miqo'te as it is. Things get very, very strange.

Sure, along with female Miqo'te, Au Ra and Viera, right?

[Gwenorai]

I mean, to be honest - NPC female Miqo'te are portrayed a lot as 'prostitutes' in this game. -Shrug-
I have yet to see female Au'ra or Viera who get slapped with the that in regards to in-game NPCs.

[Lauront]

I was shocked that the Eulmore cabaret had no bunny girl dancers, if I'm honest.

[Lunalepsy]

Yay! Free forum post! Bunnies!

[WhiteArchmage]

I mean, to be honest - NPC female Miqo'te are portrayed a lot as 'prostitutes' in this game. -Shrug-
I have yet to see female Au'ra or Viera who get slapped with the that in regards to in-game NPCs.

Female Miqo'te have the unfortunate tendency to...fill a very specific niche. Heavens, a FATE involves protecting a courtesan on the way to her client (and probably only got through the censors because the use of that word isn't as prevalent).

I was shocked that the Eulmore cabaret had no bunny girl dancers, if I'm honest.

I was pleasantly surprised by the abundance of male dancers.

[DevilsDontFly]

With the certain...behavior that tends to follow male Miqo'te and Hrothgar, I really do think the reasonings for wanting male Viera are less "for the players" than a lot of people are letting on. SE should either consider upping the rating of the game to M or removing male Miqo'te as it is. Things get very, very strange.

Yes, because it's not like there's Lalafell that like to use skin-tight pants with a nude color, or highlanders with sugestive names, or many, many cat girls, au ra dudes and girls and roegadyn with certain behavior or tendencies in regards to character design.

Been playing this game for many years, and the behavior you're talking about has been noted on every single race so far, with the exception of maybe, maybe Elezen, and that's just because not enough people play the race in order to "lewd" them.

Do keep in mind that we are from a culture and society in which male characters used to be covered head to toes while their female counterparts used to run around in bikinis with +99 protection. Of course with this game offering a better degree of equality on both sides, women that have the opportunity to be covered up will take it, as well as men having the opportunity to not be will also take it. However labeling it as a male Miqo'te/Hrothgar exclusive behavior is very flawed to say the least. Or have we already forgotten about all the cat girls that managed to make enough gil back in the day at Balmung to buy medium and large houses through ERP? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

People want male Viera because we have female Viera. Just like how people want female Hrothgar because male Hrothgar exist. It starts and end there.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

People want male Viera because we have female Viera. Just like how people want female Hrothgar because male Hrothgar exist. It starts and end there.

If only it Was this simple and clear cut XD

[Tsalmaveth]

If only it Was this simple and clear cut XD

Hi hello... it is. It really is. Anything other than that? Is projecting on a subset of players that in no way reflects the whole of the player base and why any of them play ANY race.

Why YOU have an issue with ANY race is no reason for that race to 'not be made available' for others to play. Lore in other Final Fantasy titles is NOT a reason for a race to NOT be available in THIS title, I'm afraid to break it to people here on these forums. Final Fantasy XIV is a 'unique setting' and NOT the 'original Ivalice' as has been made VERY CLEAR several times by the creator. The Vii and Viera are not even remotely the same lore-wise. Nor is lore the actual reason for both of the races to be 'unfinished'. Production time and resources are. This was made very clear. ALSO, lore is created and changed at the DROP OF A HAT in this game, as was shown when when the whole 'Au Ra show affection by rubbing horns lore' was created ON THE SPOT at the fanfest... on a whim. Lore is wonderful in FFXIV... but it can and is changed when needed by the team. The male Miqo'te and female Roe are evident of that, if nothing else.

Further, simply because some players choose to spend their time in game doing something you may not approve of, personally, is no reason to dismiss allowing in-game assets to be introduced to the wider audience. That's petty and childish on the whole. If the world operated like that... well... that would be a very restrictive and unfriendly/kind society indeed. Who would be making those rules? Hmm? Who decides what is 'approved of conduct' to allow assets and races? Let people enjoy their time and game as they like and if it isn't for you, simply don't associate with them and enjoy the game your way. That's all there is to it. You don't need to belittle them, either, however. Mutual respect is how a civil society is supposed to operate.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Hi hello... it is. It really is. Anything other than that? Is projecting on a subset of players that in no way reflects the whole of the player base and why any of them play ANY race.

Why YOU have an issue with ANY race is no reason for that race to 'not be made available' for others to play. Lore in other Final Fantasy titles is NOT a reason for a race to NOT be available in THIS title, I'm afraid to break it to people here on these forums. Final Fantasy XIV is a 'unique setting' and NOT the 'original Ivalice' as has been made VERY CLEAR several times by the creator. The Vii and Viera are not even remotely the same lore-wise. Nor is lore the actual reason for both of the races to be 'unfinished'. Production time and resources are. This was made very clear. ALSO, lore is created and changed at the DROP OF A HAT in this game, as was shown when when the whole 'Au Ra show affection by rubbing horns lore' was created ON THE STOP at the fanfest... on a whim. Lore is wonderful in FFXIV... but it can and is changed when needed by the team. The male Miqo'te and female Roe are evident of that, if nothing else.

Further, simply because some players choose to spend their time in game doing something you may not approve of, personally, is no reason to dismiss allowing in-game assets to be introduced to the wider audience. That's petty and childish on the whole. If the world operated like that... well... that would be a very restrictive and unfriendly/kind society indeed. Who would be making those rules? Hmm? Who decides what is 'approved of conduct' to allow assets and races? Let people enjoy their time and game as they like and if it isn't for you, simply don't associate with them and enjoy the game your way. That's all there is to it. You don't need to belittle them, either, however. Mutual respect is how a civil society is supposed to operate.

Umm...Hi :3
So to start...I don't believe that, because Ive seen for months that people have attacked Yoshi and the devs over no Male Viera for reasons outside of Video Game choices. Much deeper stuff and tried to bring in social Justice.
But moving on.

Im guessing you read some of my posts, I have said that Male Viera could be written in. You are right that XIV is not XII or Tactics Advance. All I said was its a race that has existed before FFXIV, so 'It has established lore' Personally Id love that Lore to remain intact. But Im not against writing the Male Viera in; a new clan, or an event that brings them out
I support the idea of Male Viera, I just believe there needs to be a reason outside of "Equality" or "Because I want it" Odds are very strong we are getting them none the less.

And since you quoted me I can only assume your directing this at me...but... When have I disapproved of what others do? And when have I belittled anyone? When did I want to police assets? I could easily be reading this wrong, but it sounds like you are pointing at me with all of this.

[Tsalmaveth]

It was a very 'in general' to a lot of what has been said in this thread of late. If you feel it is about you, consider it. If you know it isn't, then it isn't and you don't need to worry about it. There are a lot of people who want to take swipes at people for how they want to play the game, which isn't really any of their business. I quoted you to respond to one thing and then continued speaking about other matters as well, so as not to clutter the thread with multiple posts. If you want to take anything said in the whole of my post personally, you're free to or not, but that is up to you.

Saying 'I want lore to remain intact' has no place in a game where there IS NO LORE regarding Viera/Vii outside of what Yoshida and his team decide to create. Tactics and XII Viera are a different race. And Male Viera DO EXIST in XII. They just are not playable/seen. It isn't that they are not THERE. They just are not SEEN. Hence, there is no real justification to using lore as a reason to deny players access to a race down the road in this game should the team get access to the resources to do so.