5.0 Machinist Launch Feedback

[Miziliti]

It was fun at first, but hypercharge came in and now my fingers hurts with all the Heat Blast, Gauss Round, and Ricochet spam. It is hard to explain, but I feel like the oGCD spaming became too intense.

[sinnum]

One other thing I'd like to ask...

Can we have Flamethrower's animation changed to using our new multi-tool like Bioblaster? Maybe put a new attachment on it, but it seems kind of weird that we have this awesome tool and we shoot the fire from our gun. I know it's just a carry over from the SB animation, but it'd look much cooler with the tool.

Thanks!

[Mistyregions]

I dont main MCH but it is my only other DPS I am interested in, I am at 71. I have a question. For wildfire does your turret count as a skill? Because I feel like usuing wildfire as an opener is straight useless because it doesn't do much damage even if I hyper charge and smash the one attack OGCD and weave in gauss rounds.

Am I doing this right?

[Tila]

I dont get why they didnt just get rid of wildfire and add the new gauge, keeping the old rotation.

[memepapa]

I also had this idea of giving 5 rounds of ammunition that you would expend and wouldn't miss a cast due to high ping and having to weave the ricochet and gauss round ogcds. It seems like a reasonable and thematic way to help higher ping players.

The other thing that may be affected if the latency is very high is fitting in the last gcd into the wildfire window, but at least it should hopefully be more forgiving than the current hyper charge system and missing casts of the overcharged moves.

Hopefully these kind of posts are noticed by the dev team!

[AvenoMatt]

Wildfire only count your weapons skills. What your turret or queen do have no effect on it.

[Drayos]

I also had this idea of giving 5 rounds of ammunition that you would expend and wouldn't miss a cast due to high ping and having to weave the ricochet and gauss round ogcds. It seems like a reasonable and thematic way to help higher ping players.

The other thing that may be affected if the latency is very high is fitting in the last gcd into the wildfire window, but at least it should hopefully be more forgiving than the current hyper charge system and missing casts of the overcharged moves.

Hopefully these kind of posts are noticed by the dev team!

It would not fix. Reguardless to how they set out heated shot or hypercharge. You can’t weave beneath the 1.25 GCD you can’t actively double weave either.

Your dps wouldn’t be any higher realistically. Because if ur pings at a level u cant physically weave, ur missing DPS Throughout its entire gameplay, because its built on the back of Weaving and Double weaving. if ur treating Ricochet and GUass Round as physical GCDs because u litterally cant weave. then its still problematic, and if they fix the ping problem for you, they'll only have another with a higher Ping then urself who will still have more issues.

This type of playstyle has been hell for high ping players across the board. SB had a collection of jobs which weren’t useable by those with high ping either.

It looks good on paper but it would not fix the issues. Merely dress them up differently.

They made their best option.

Turning bard into a pure dps also matching machinist with less OGCDs and stays on 2.5 second GCD

Gave high ping players a choice. This was pretty much the best fix they offered. Problem is people ignore this and fire on with machinist and while yes, they could redo it into a slower job for people suffering this problem. It puts the players out who want machinists new playstyle out without the same option as you already have.

It sounds selfish as a low ping player for wanting machinist to remain as is, but you have to remember. We have like 1-3 job choices as far as this playstyle has.

While every other job has been slowed down enough and lost enough OGCD capability to facilitate you,

Slowing down mechanist will make us a bard clone. And it’s unnecessary because bard offers you exactly what your asking for, and its likely been done in this way for that reason... create 2 Ranged Physical DPS Orintated Jobs, to fit both sides of the playerbase.

I get people get frustrated that they dont enjoy specific Jobs, but these jobs would be 400x more boring if they were catered to every player individually, Jobs Dont need to change for players, they need to be Unique Different with all their Different flaws and perfections to give Players enough options to find one they love..

Does machinist need to be changed?.. no, it Facilitates ALOT of players now, its gone from the most underepresented job, to maybe one of the most. ALOT of players Love the new machinist, talk to any streamer, they're all being told by masses how amazing this job is. Maybe the job just isnt for you, its as simple as that. they cant redo a job everytime someone levels one up to find out they dislike it.

I hate RDM and Dancer, RNG is Uncontrollable, it offers Less control over ur own gameplay and puts most of your achievements on Luck. Its infuritating, it doesnt mean i feel the job needs to change.. it made me feel like i needed to change the job i was playing, every job is built towards a group of Players Mindsets, Machinist is there for People who want Machinist and those that dont have like 14 other DPS jobs they can choose from. if they were trying to cater every job to every player.. and fixing every job for every player problem there was, they may aswell delete all the jobs create 1 Job and make us all the same.. cause its pointless homogenizing Jobs to those extents to make this a reality.

every job has Someone who hates it, every job has Flaws that make it difficult on players.

SE Could Lower the graphics of the game for people with worse PCs, They could Slow down Savage Raidings Mechanics for players with arthiritius, They could Remove Openers for People with Brain injuries.. there are THOUSANDS of things in the world that affect players which isnt their fault, Designing Every job Around Every one of these possibilities, Would do nothing but Make the game boring and homogenized.

if this was across the board all jobs, i'd agree with you something needs to be done, but More of the jobs faciliate those with a higher ping then jobs which faciliate Players who want faster gameplay and we accept our pool of choice is much smaller to allow Everyone to participate in the game. but we have to be Left some options to choose from otherwise ur doing nothing but building the grounds where we all leave to find a Game which does faciliate what we want :P.

there are alot more people loving Machinist, then dont, theres nothing wrong with Not enjoying a job, or finding a job which isnt for u, its Not something that needs fixing, it isnt fixable. This is why WoW is crashing.. its trying to make Everything faciliate Everyone. and it doesnt work, its a Failure of a Idea, you cant Make cool things. or interesting things If ur handicapping urself to trying to make sure 100% of the playerbase Love it.

at the end of the day, in a couple of months everyone will be unhappy with the fact MAchinist wont be Meta, Due to the fact its now a Selfish job with 0 Unique Utility and theyre generally view to be a Worse choice then the jobs which offer more to the Raid DPS :P

[Drayos]

I dont main MCH but it is my only other DPS I am interested in, I am at 71. I have a question. For wildfire does your turret count as a skill? Because I feel like usuing wildfire as an opener is straight useless because it doesn't do much damage even if I hyper charge and smash the one attack OGCD and weave in gauss rounds.

Am I doing this right?

No. Turret doesn’t work.

I have found success personally by

To begin with, using reassemblance—> air anchor —> double weave guass shot and ricochet —> Drill —> double weave guass shot and ricochet —> the ability which gives 50 heat —> Wildfire —> hyper charge. Spam heated shot weaving guass round or ricochet if u don’t have a guass round to use

Remember wildfire doesn’t count the damage done. But how many abilities are used. The actual damage is irrelevant to damage done. And only weapon skills count. So turret doesn’t.

Turret you just use whenever u cap, or at 80, don’t use air anchor for 100 freom 80 as u waste 10 of it instantly,

Machinist basically works on fitting as many abilities you can into the smallest amount of time. But now continously.

[AvenoMatt]

My MCH is only at lv71, focusing on DNC, but atm my rotation is Hot Shot -> Reassemble -> Drill -> Gauss -> Split Shot -> Ricochet -> Slug -> Gauss -> Clean -> Barrel -> Split -> Wildfire -> Hypercharge -> Heat Blast spam/RicochetGauss spam then I just do my rotation and use my important skills when they are up. I prefer not to double weave unless I have to.

Edit: I also use Rook at 50 battery as it seems in the long run it will end up doing more damage if I use it when the battery is at minimum charge rather then waiting for max charge. Idk what will be best for queen as I haven't done any calculations.

[Mistyregions]

Wildfire only count your weapons skills. What your turret or queen do have no effect on it.

Ok thank you! So opening with wild fire is technically the way to go and usuing hyper charge and cooldown and spam it. I'm disappointed that it does such negligible damage.