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  1. #7431
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    -Fran is a resistance leader general not a sky pirate traveling with Balthier
    I'll retract the idea of a shared Universe based on this 1 important fact

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Ok, first of all, the people you're saying are a minority in a minority, there's been very few name-calling in a while, and you're using a lot of buzzwords taken out of context. We don't know the full extent of the budget, but from Yoshi's comments it's not enough for the numbers that XIV brings in. Heck, no one's thrown the sexism and homophobia cards in months (at least, not in this thread).
    Second, males existed, just were never shown, and as I've said before: when we go to Golmore Jungle, we specifically go to the areas that would be in control of Eruyt, a female Village, so if the males have control over their own part of the forest (as the Ultimania says), we wouldn't see it, and we see very few Viera outside the Woods anyway.
    Point being, Lore doesn't even need to change to introduce playable males (and female Ronso). They're super rare and very seldomly leave the woods, except for the exception to all Lore rules: the PC.
    Lol, Just because these words weren't said in a while doesn't negate the fact that it happened. It should be mention that these "buzzwords" have been used in plenty of other places like Reddit and Youtube Comment sections, not just here on the Official Forums.
    I never said they didn't exist, my wording may have been off, but never seeing one has been a staple since 2003 with Tactics Advance due to them hiding in the woods. Besides all that, we are literally agreeing then that Male Viera are fine....If there is a Good Written Reason for them to come out of hiding. Lore would still need to be tweaked 'slightly' to involve this reason. Because the Males barley, if ever, leave the Woods.

    Im not touching Female Hrothgar, because thats not the topic, and there isn't some Decade Old Excuse that people like me are Clinging to.
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  2. #7432
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    So I’m still trying to make this female model look as male as possible... and gotta say sometimes it gets really close! (Though I don’t know why my boobs suddenly grow three sizes in certain tops)

    But.... there are so many little reasons piling up that makes this just not a great solution. Obviously the wrong titles/pronouns is an issue but also clothes. Items I used to wear as pants are now suddenly skirts or booty shorts. Like are there seriously no just pants for women in this game?
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  3. #7433
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    Komarimono's Avatar
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    Komari Mono
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Lore wise, we know little of Male Viera other then they live apart from the women, are smaller and stockier from what other games told us, and that's about it... I don't mind they are not in the game though, but some of the fan art making them younger looking boys, or skinny tall men is a bit silly.

    If they do add them, I pray it's not based off of fanart, and keeps to the little lore we have of them.
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  4. #7434
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I don't think any game in the series has commented on their appearance, has it? Besides, XIV is not beholden to how they were described in other settings, even if it were the case. FFXIV's concept art for them did not portray them as such, in any case, but I agree on the younger looking art being wholly unfitting.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  5. #7435
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    my prediction is: reveal in 5.2, playable in 5.3. the only reason why we don't physically see them yet or female hrothgar is because then people would be frothing at the mouth because they're not playable
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  6. #7436
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    WhiteArchmage's Avatar
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    So I’m still trying to make this female model look as male as possible... and gotta say sometimes it gets really close! (Though I don’t know why my boobs suddenly grow three sizes in certain tops)

    But.... there are so many little reasons piling up that makes this just not a great solution. Obviously the wrong titles/pronouns is an issue but also clothes. Items I used to wear as pants are now suddenly skirts or booty shorts. Like are there seriously no just pants for women in this game?
    Oof, I made them on the smaller side and suddenly put the dancer top on and BOOBS, like, what the hell? Also my High House Justaucorps is male only... <_<
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  7. #7437
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    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    my prediction is: reveal in 5.2, playable in 5.3. the only reason why we don't physically see them yet or female hrothgar is because then people would be frothing at the mouth because they're not playable
    Im sticking to the belief it will be closer to 6.0. The dev team should focus more on the current ShB content, Balancing ShB content, and working on the In-Game Holiday events. Maybe after the 1st year they can splinter off and begin development of Male Viera and Female Hrothgar.

    Plus it would be cool if they worked on more Faces and/or Hairstyles for the 2 races. And fix in more Headgear
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  8. #7438
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Who wants male Viera when you can have this? :P

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    Gaius van Baelsar: Nor is this unknown to your masters. Which prompts the question: what came first, the chicken or the egg?

  9. #7439
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    Adamantini's Avatar
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    Behemoth
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    So I’m still trying to make this female model look as male as possible... and gotta say sometimes it gets really close! (Though I don’t know why my boobs suddenly grow three sizes in certain tops)

    But.... there are so many little reasons piling up that makes this just not a great solution. Obviously the wrong titles/pronouns is an issue but also clothes. Items I used to wear as pants are now suddenly skirts or booty shorts. Like are there seriously no just pants for women in this game?
    i'm having the same problem here too.
    My biggest challenge is to make one swimwear with this character. I tried to put the werewolf chest (and say something like "I have hairy chest"), but the chest of this set have a wolf tail, who arruined my plans. My next plan is try the moogle chest

    EDIT: I remembered now that this moogle chest have two wings... well, back to the planning stage =(
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    Last edited by Adamantini; 07-06-2019 at 11:49 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.

  10. #7440
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    well zanarkand, how i see it, is that judging purely from all the information we have for patch plans, we're having: ishgard restoration. probably a larger scale version of the doman enclave restoration, plus a refurbished diadem. i don't see this taking up an extraordinary amount of development time considering that they have a large amount of assets already done and dusted, with them needing alterations, which is much less intensive than creating the assets from scratch. we also have raids, alliance raids, hard sb dungeons, new story dungeons, which are pretty standard.
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