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    Miqo’te influences are fairly subtle and they have a classically handsome option in the dad face. I don’t mind subtle influences and with miqo’te it’s a nod in the feline direction more than anything.
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    Y'all are killing me with this child vs adult debate, slim body vs toned body vs muscular body.
    You all get Hrothgar in GS bunny ears and you'll like it.
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    I don't think Hrothgar's body type suits male Viera at all. It was also strange that they based their body off of Roegadyn when in FFX they seem more similar to Au Ra/Highlander (Khimari at least). I still think a good solution would be to have different body types for Veena and Rava while still sharing similarities in their faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    I don't think Hrothgar's body type suits male Viera at all. It was also strange that they based their body off of Roegadyn when in FFX they seem more similar to Au Ra/Highlander (Khimari at least). I still think a good solution would be to have different body types for Veena and Rava while still sharing similarities in their faces.
    Two body types would be effectively 2 new races. SE would have to create and fit everything to 2 body types, and if you do that for both genders, we are talking about effectively 4 races here. Implausible, so no, it wouldn't be a good solution. Being that they didn't include the other genders for these reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    What does a rabbit like face even entail in this context? If it's some chinless, buck-toothed wonder, I somehow doubt that'll fit within the rubric of "handsome". I certainly don't think the artwork that was posted earlier could be considered handsome, as well drawn as it may be.
    The females look like humans at first glance, the only 'rabbit-like' features are the nose to an extent (the tip) and the position of the mouth to the nose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Eden Spoilers:

    I think the physique of the final boss could work well for a rugged, fierce defender of the forest.
    Would definitely work!

    When he takes his armor (transforms his drills and stuff into a cart) off he looks like a pacific islander warrior, really cool.


    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I disagree. To me, it looks like the twitter user was taking the female viera's rabbit-like facial structure into account for their own model. Many of the other races including Hyur, Elezen, Miqote, and so on do offer a softer face as an option in the character creator. If male viera is implemented into the game, I would like a softer face similar to the model I had posted earlier as one of the options.
    Yeah, I'm just not seeing the rabbit like features at all even in the 3d model. It just looks like a 15 y/o face at best. I am talking about the actual model, not the art. So it being an adult and it being "just the artstyle" has no bearing. Looks good for a male viera before they leave for the wood, or right when they leave (After puberty)! Great concept for a viera if we see one in the game that is around Alphinaud/Alisaie's age range!

    This one. It can't be confused with artstyle since it is a 3d render. I definitely do not see any rabbit-like features in the face.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    The person who drew that is also working on a 3D model of their character, which I thought looked really nice.
    I already posted it before, but since you're asking...

    model by twitter user: @gIue_stick

    It's obviously not done yet, but this is what this particular face would look like in 3D. I would like to have something like this as a face option. The model is based off the drawing I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
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    I disagree.

    "The model I showed is not finished yet. From what I understand, the twitter user creating this model is observing the facial structure of the female viera, or rather the rabbit-like structure of their faces, and translating that onto their own model. One thing this user could improve upon is making their nose more rabbit like, but otherwise, I think something like this would be a great face option."

    The face is similar to that of miqo'te.

    It is very likely that the male viera face will look similar to male miqo'tes face, or have rabbit-like features. The concept art I showed before furthers that point, but I will present another art piece from the other concept art to further this point even more:


    You can compare this to the male miqo'te concept art
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I disagree.

    "The model I showed is not finished yet. From what I understand, the twitter user creating this model is observing the facial structure of the female viera, or rather the rabbit-like structure of their faces, and translating that onto their own model. One thing this user could improve upon is making their nose more rabbit like, but otherwise, I think something like this would be a great face option."

    The face is similar to that of miqo'te.

    It is very likely that the male viera face will look similar to male miqo'tes face, or have rabbit-like features. The concept art I showed before furthers that point, but I will present another art piece from the other concept art to further this point even more:
    I am not talking about in general if male viera will have 'rabbit-like' features, I am talking about that specific render, and it just looks like a young teenager with rabbit ears on his head. He even has the hairstyle every kid had back in 2008. It might be unfinished, but they would have to change it drastically to add actual 'rabbit-like' features. Of course if male viera actually came out they would probably have features similar to that of the females, 'rabbit-like' nose/mouth. That's a given.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Yeah! I almost wiped on the fight because I was picturing him with bunny ears and thinking 'wow, this would fit so well!'.

    It's also pretty close to some of the concept art for male viera, so I think that's another reason it'd work nicely.
    We DID wipe on the fight. We were not expecting a lot of what happened..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I am not talking about in general if male viera will have 'rabbit-like' features, I am talking about that specific render, and it just looks like a young teenager with rabbit ears on his head.
    I disagree. As Alleo had mentioned before, we also have to understand the japanese can have a different view on what handsome means. Yoshida mentioned they would be slim, elegant, and handsome, and the concepts show this quite clearly. Yoshida muses on about how the male viera face would look - similar to that of male miqo'te. The concept art shows this as well. I suppose the face is not handsome by western standards, but it is a handsome, adult male face by another culture's standards.

    The model I presented looks similar to that of the concept art above.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    He even has the hairstyle every kid had back in 2008
    The twitter user mentioned they were using Aymeric's hair as a base. The hair will probably look different on the completed model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
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    Yeah! I almost wiped on the fight because I was picturing him with bunny ears and thinking 'wow, this would fit so well!'.

    It's also pretty close to some of the concept art for male viera, so I think that's another reason it'd work nicely.
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    I'm confused, I thought the Japanese version of beauty was more akin to that of the Elezen, while Miqo'te is more western? Are they not the slimmest, elegant and subjectively the most handsome race - as is the case with most MMO/RPGs and elves. I have high doubts they'd be using a miqo'te facial model, they're too round. For one of them maybe, as it the case with most of the races, of course. Most folks associate a round face to that of youth - and thus we have the phrase 'baby face'.

    Anyway, I decided to try Elezen out once more, and while covering then neck with some of the glamour they're not too bad. Very elegant, very attractive looking and of course, tall. I could get used to this.

    Note; I was also of the mind that in terms of biology Japanese are much more likely to have higher cheekbones and straight/pronounced jaws line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I'm confused, I thought the Japanese version of beauty was more akin to that of the Elezen, while Miqo'te is more western?
    To me, the elezen facial structure is handsome by western standards. It's very regal.
    Miqo'tes face does not seem western to me. It comes off as more... anime, honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    While they could go for the Miqo'te face, then I'd have to ask why both of the 'animalistic' races are overly similar, more so than they should be. I don't think it'd be that wise of a choice. They'd already be 'close' as is - why make them even closer, you know?
    I suppose their face/head shape would be similar, but there is enough to differentiate these two races such as viera's rabbit like nose, height, pose, and so on. I wouldn't necessarily say this is an unwise choice, as female viera seem to be doing very well at the moment. I do realize that this number may go down over time, but regardless, I believe female viera will still be one of the popular picks.
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