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  1. #1
    Player
    millktea's Avatar
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    Character
    Nero Ceruleum
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100

    5.0 WAR is a disappointment

    Its just 4.x War but just a bit more flexible and fluid. Having Direct Crit "fell cleave/decimate" outside of inner release is nice, but War gained literally nothing new this expansion. It's the same job.

    inner chaos and chaotic cyclone are just re-skins of inner beast and steel cyclone. SE couldn't even bother to make these two have their own unique animation? Chaotic Cyclone's icon is literally SC but recoloured in bright red overlay?? That lazy?

    Single target rotation? It's the same as 4.x.
    There is no variety with WAR. Fell cleave (only instead, you use a repurposed Inner beast if you infuriate). One combo. The same two storm options as the third hit.

    Aoe rotation? Its better. Players can now gain beast gauge, keep eye up, and refresh it, which also makes going from overpower into IR much more fluid.

    Mythril Tempest is an added second hit of a new two hit combo (that everyone else also got), but it is also a repurposed, recycled pvp skill. Same animation.

    A new attack that isn't FC is refreshing.... if it didn't work exactly like infuriate > FC and look like inner beast with upheaval effects. If players could only use inner chaos during IR, then FC outside of it, even that would've been better... and now all tanks have "inner release" after war was bandaided by mimicking paladin's requiscatin 4.1. Job identity. Where is it?

    Nascent Flash is just int/tbn WAR edition to push war into ot status.

    Next to paladin, gunbreaker, and even dark knight, war is very underwhelming and stale. The only thing that's "refreshing" is you can aoe for days FOR FREE.

    I've mained war for years. Previous expansion, I cleared all savage tiers and done ultimates. War was very flawed in 4.0 and even still in 4.x and I was looking forward to the new changes and growth in 5.0...but all I got was bigger fell cleave and buffed inner beast (without healing priorities).

    SE took a tank that was already simple and made it even more brainless. Why is paladin and dark knight much more complex and engaging while still easy to use? 4.0 WAR had a good idea, despite the problematic rng and stance flaws.

    Nice belated 4.x War buff, square... so when are you going to give us 5.0 WAR?
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  2. #2
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    Character
    King Canadane
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    You can't fix perfection.
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  3. #3
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    Greywolfamakir's Avatar
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    Character
    Greywolf Amakir
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Nice troll post dude

    OMEGALOL
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  4. #4
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    OmegaSinX's Avatar
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    Character
    King Drako
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    You can't fix perfection.
    Couldn't agree more. WAR is at a great place right now, if it ain't broke don't fix it. SE improved what we loved about WAR and made it better through QOL changes.
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    Tanks be Like....


  5. #5
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    Character
    Izsha Azel
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    Its still pretty bland. The dh crit meme is getting a little old. When SE makes a job who used to have a great identity that actually matched the gameplay and replace it all with HULK SNASH SB! HULK SMASHIER ShB! Its.....bleh. it would be nice to have a reason to give a shit about all the crit buffs in the game too.

    War is plenty effective. But the core concept of the class has been watered down to just hit it really hard. Its pretty ubinspired in that regard.
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  6. #6
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Character
    Tal Young
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Count your blessings, a full SE rework is very much a double edged sword. They just as often make an absolute mess of a job as they do improve it.
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  7. #7
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    Strider_xiii's Avatar
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    Character
    Strider Xiii
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I dont get how you think war is worse off then the other 3 tanks. War and pld in this expansion are the best tanks in the game.
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  8. #8
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    Dio_Tiferet's Avatar
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    Character
    Dio Tiferet
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Be happy it remained the same i'd do anything to get my Stormblood DRK back and it was the worst of the 3 tanks in terms of performance.
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  9. #9
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    Character
    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    I dont mind the aoe combo i like nascent flash and new raw intuition and the thrill of battle, i do love that we could heal ourself and deal big damage at the same time.
    I like infuriate mechanic, you could play with it around IR to make most out of it.
    But one thing i was REALLY hoping for was just another and low CD oGCD to use in IR window and outside of it, just one... And we got none which is pretty disappointing. PLD got, DRK got, War did not.

    My buttons hotbar did not changed much, instead i got less buttons to press here and there.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 07-06-2019 at 03:43 AM.

  10. #10
    Player
    TheForce's Avatar
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    Character
    The Protector
    World
    Aegis
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dio_Tiferet View Post
    Be happy it remained the same i'd do anything to get my Stormblood DRK back and it was the worst of the 3 tanks in terms of performance.
    Oh my goodness, YES. This is exactly what I was thinking as I read this post. Shizz, I WISH they had just left my job the same.
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