Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
Using our Mechanic/stance is selfish? I could say the reverse and say not using it put extra strain on Healers cause they have to compensate for the extra damage the tanks are taking.

You could tank without it but why would you want to? Unless you want to see how you do on FFlogs which in that case I'd say you're a WAR or a DPS that got lost on class selection.
Maybe you should not comment on something you don't know anything about, because you have no grasp on how raids worked. Every casual heal from extreme content onwards was easily able to heal the tanks and do dps as well. That was actually required for many dps checks and enrage timers, you know? And the dps loss of tank stance far outweight the potential dps loss of healers had due to increased damage received.

Basic healer and tank dps was necessary for many encounters with enrage timers and actually trying to optimize your damage acted as a hugh relieve for dps, especially in casual groups, where the required damage before enrage by far exceeded what a casual dps could hope to archieve. So yeah, tank stance and pure healing were highly selfish playstyles that put an unnecessary strain on anyone else in the party.

Sorry that you probably have no idea what you are talking about and probably never did any content above msq dungeons, otherwise you would have known. Tanks and Healers doing and optimizing damage is not some FFlogs emeter thing, this is a selfish or lazy players strawman. Doing as much damage as you can do while fulfilling your primary role in a group is an additional support for the entire party, especially for your fellow dps.

I think forcing casual dps to beat the enrage timers in most encounters without the additional support of dps stance tanking and healer dps would have been outright sadistic.