What have you done?

[ElysaProudmoore]

Tanks are completely monotonous and boring now. TYVM.
pls enjoy your generic combo + generic aoe combo.

Use my aggro generating ability, hit a mob, go afk. Heaven forbid you'd have to actually put some effort into tanking.
The only fun part was being able to swap stances and play around with cooldowns while tanking... seriously im depressed. really really dissapointing.
Spam 3 buttons, pop a cooldown now n then, perhaps side step an orange circle from time to time, hooo weeee wow what a blast....

DRK is just a trainwreck, do you even test things before releasing?
Other tanks have just been gutted in the worst ways....
Basically you removed skills that generated aggro to trivialize aggro generation, and took away anything that made each job feel unique, sure the abilities are different colors and each job uses a diff weapon and has a different stance, but from a gameplay standpoint were all just blending together now.

I dont even want to think about how horrible level sync will be with this.
....could go on about it but i wont as nothing will change.

Very very sad seeing all MMO's go this route of simplifying things endlessly/needlessly
easy game = more subs = more money
dont believe me? just look at the plethora of cash grabs on the mogstore.

[TheForce]

Agreed. Specifically with the part about DRK. It's like they put no effort into it at all, it's like they didn't care.

Man, and I thought SB's iteration was kind of wack...I'd give ANYTHING to have it back right now. 5.0 DRK is abysmal.

[udubdave]

Yeah, tanking is super easy now, no skill involved at all. Just put on your tank stance, and you don't even have to worry about keeping aggro. Maybe it's a way to get more people to tank? Who knows, but I was a tank main up until SB and now I'm probably gonna switch.

[Nedkel]

You could play dps if you want.
No one was crying after enmity combo removal, you are complaining about thing that was nonexistent either way. With tank stance there were no enmity management whatsoever. Its just making a fus out of thin air.
Tanks are boring? Were they more engaging to play before? Stop kidding me.
Did tanks had any other combos worth to use? Enmity combo was barely ever used at all, at least they got aoe combo and extra stuff to rotate with it, and not spam 1 button until tp ran out.
Paladin guted in the worst way? Lol
Paladin has NEVER been in the better shape than he is now.
Warrior got extra stuff too.
Drk has been completely reworked, it doesnt mean to be the old version of itself.
Im confused, did we played the same game?

[Quri]

You could play dps if you want.
No one was crying after enmity combo removal, you are complaining about thing that was nonexistent either way. With tank stance there were no enmity management whatsoever. Its just making a fus out of thin air.
Tanks are boring? Were they more engaging to play before? Stop kidding me.
Did tanks had any other combos worth to use? Enmity combo was barely ever used at all, at least they got aoe combo and extra stuff to rotate with it, and not spam 1 button until tp ran out.
Paladin guted in the worst way? Lol
Paladin NEVER been in the better shape than he is now.
Warrior got extra stuff too.
Drk has been completely reworked, it doesnt mean to be the old version of itself.
Im confused, did we played the same game?

People were using aggro combo a lot apparently. I started as a tank on the tail end of HW, and aggro management was a non issue.

[Conando]

Stop playing it so I don’t have to wait an hour to queue then.

[Nedkel]

People were using aggro combo a lot apparently. I started as a tank on the tail end of HW, and aggro management was a non issue.

It was not the issue with sb either.
I could only think of 2 times where it was used. In the dungeons one time at boss fights when swaped to off stance and in savage raids at opener. Any other usage was a dps loss and it should have been never considered as a thing to use at all.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

PLD is the most fun its ever been honestly. I found it boring as hell in 4.x tbh, stopped playing it pretty much completely, after maining it for raids in 2.x and 3.x.

Stances added nothing to PLD's gameplay, they were a hindrance more than a boon, and the "choice" of using an aggro combo wasn't there if you wanted to play at a high end. You simply didn't use it and hoped your DPS and healers were on their aggro management, and your other tank was MT.

Have you even done any of the difficult content in this game? The things that actually require thought? Doesn't look like it from what I can see. Why is it always the people who don't attempt difficult content who get the most upset when things change like this. Its been this way in every "the game is too easy, too simplified" thread I've seen yet.


Also, for someone who is so against the cash shop, you sure have a lot of cash shop mounts.

[Quri]

It was not the issue with sb either.
I could only think of 2 times where it was used. In the dungeons one time at boss fights when swaped to off stance and in savage raids at opener. Any other usage was a dps loss and it should have been never considered as a thing to use at all.

It's just weird. They changed it, and now people act like aggro combo, stance dance, and aggro management was this constant thing, difficult thing to do as a tank. Tank stance till you got huge aggro lead, depending on tank item level and party usage of aggro skills was 0 to 3 aggro combo, then dps stance.

[ReiMakoto]

I dont know what game you were playing till now but aggro was always a non issue, so now we get a slightly more involved dps rotation. Except drk, i agree the rework is whack