Revelations from SHADOWBRINGERS

[Fenral]

Did they change their names?

Nope. They adopted Source-friendly aliases while they were in Eorzea, though it's now apparent that some had to adapt a little more than others.

[Jonnycbad]

Source friendly meaning they had to pick names that don't sound alien? Or to hide their identities? Because some look like they're pronounced the same, but with different spelling.

[MrThinker]

Source friendly meaning they had to pick names that don't sound alien? Or to hide their identities? Because some look like they're pronounced the same, but with different spelling.

I think the former is the most likely option, that and people might want to know where they came from if their names were out of the ordinary.

[EdwinLi]

In the category of "lines Koji changed because they were too obvious":

When Thancred is holding off Ran'jit in Amh Areng, he declares, "I won't let you get in the way of my kid sister or my daughter!" (Referring to the upcoming meeting of the Minfilias.) In the Japanese voice track, at least. It's the first time he's ever put his relationships with either of them in words, so I couldn't help but be a little disappointed at how much of his emotional honesty was cut out of the English script. It seems weird (to me, anyway) that such a clear, definitive moment in his arc would be rewritten into something less so, but I'm not the Localization Director.

Guess they....

Did this ebcause they didn't want Thancred's relationship with Ryne to become a Brother and Sister relationship and more of a Father and Daughter relationship.

We can only assume the many reasons why but for me I am guess it is because Thancred is actually old enough to be more of a Father than Brother figure due to being in his 30s now.

On another topic...

This has only come to mind that the upcoming Warriors of Light we fight maybe the remaining 6 Fragments of WoL's soul (or should i say original Soul). We know that WoL's soul was split into 13 shards when the world Split due to the Lore and each Calamity would fuse the Shard Souls into the Source Soul.

However, being 13 beings created fromt the same Soul but have completely different appearances and gender, this may be also a Lore reason why our character can look so different from the other Warriors of Light from the other Shards which are basically the WoL/WoD's Doppelgangers.

Heck, our character may not even look like what they are now before the Sundering of the Source into 13 shards.

I suspect the upcoming battles against the Warriors of Light maybe a battle to determine which will become the Dominant Personality in control of the body once all remaining 6 Souls fuse together.

[MrThinker]

Guess they....

Did this ebcause they didn't want Thancred's relationship with Ryne to become a Brother and Sister relationship and more of a Father and Daughter relationship.

We can only assume the many reasons why but for me I am guess it is because Thancred is actually old enough to be more of a Father than Brother figure due to being in his 30s now.

On another topic...

This has only come to mind that the upcoming Warriors of Light we fight maybe the remaining 6 Fragments of WoL's soul (or should i say original Soul). We know that WoL's soul was split into 13 shards when the world Split due to the Lore and each Calamity would fuse the Shard Souls into the Source Soul.

However, being 13 beings created fromt the same Soul but have completely different appearances and gender, this may be also a Lore reason why our character can look so different from the other Warriors of Light from the other Shards which are basically the WoL/WoD's Doppelgangers.

Heck, our character may not even look like what they are now before the Sundering of the Source into 13 shards.

I suspect the upcoming battles against the Warriors of Light maybe a battle to determine which will become the Dominant Personality in control of the body once all remaining 6 Souls fuse together.

In regards to your first conjecture

I can only assume you meant our Minfillia, because that was meant to be the brother-sister relationship.

In regards to the second

it would be 5 warriors. Before the Frst calamity souls on the source were 1/14. After it they were 2/14. So after the 7th calamity and the beginning of ARR we would be 8/14 of the originals. Ardbert joins his soul unto ours to bring us upto 9/14. That leaves 5 fragments.

[Guiballad]

In regards to your first conjecture

I can only assume you meant our Minfillia, because that was meant to be the brother-sister relationship.

In regards to the second

it would be 5 warriors. Before the Frst calamity souls on the source were 1/14. After it they were 2/14. So after the 7th calamity and the beginning of ARR we would be 8/14 of the originals. Ardbert joins his soul unto ours to bring us upto 9/14. That leaves 5 fragments.

About that...

We already know one of those souls i believe. Maybe that was the reason Elidibus saved Unukalhai from the Flood of Darkness since he was described as being "like us". If the more meta plot really is moving towards us becoming "whole" again that could have some ...fun implications.

But i wonder WHY a servant of Zodiark would choose to spare/recomplete the person who was probably responsible for the summoning of Hydaelyn. So they can face justice? Mayhaps there's a lot more sentimentality involved as Emet-Selch would suggest.

[EdwinLi]

So how about that...

Young G'raha Tia in the Source will awaken in 5.1 MSQ since Old G'raha Tia cannot retrun to the Source and must remain in the First for the rest of his life. Thus Young G'raha Tia must awaken early to take up his role in the Source version of the Crystal Tower.

I hope to see a reunion between G'raha Tia and the rest of NOAH in 5.1 MSQ.

[SaitoHikari]

About that...

We already know one of those souls i believe. Maybe that was the reason Elidibus saved Unukalhai from the Flood of Darkness since he was described as being "like us". If the more meta plot really is moving towards us becoming "whole" again that could have some ...fun implications.

But i wonder WHY a servant of Zodiark would choose to spare/recomplete the person who was probably responsible for the summoning of Hydaelyn. So they can face justice? Mayhaps there's a lot more sentimentality involved as Emet-Selch would suggest.

I expect the thought process is a bit like...

There's some sentimentality involved, but also they probably want the soul to remember what happened, just so they can go 'you idiot, you moron, look at what you've done!'. I mean, when you live for millennia, simple grudges can go a really long way.

The other part is maybe hoping that once the WoL is fully rejoined, they might realize the full scale of what happened and side with them in helping to undo everything that happened. The Rejoining can't be fully completed with the 13th shard as is, and the Ascians lack a means of restoring it to a state where it can be rejoined - but the WoL might be capable of doing that (and possibly already had the potential to do it if Emet-Selch didn't decide to be a prideful idiot and take our light over there, instead of forcing us to kill him with it). Elidibus probably went full murder mode in the meantime because he figured this current incarnation is now too brainwashed to listen.

[Eloah]

Also the Elvaan mage, I guess she died and was replaced?

This was addressed way back when it was revealed that the Magus of Darkness was male instead of female, like the one on the source. Basically, Koji said that each "party" is different. Which given newly gained info about the fragmented souls, it makes sense that they could be different genders.

Also did anyone else notice that the 3 dungeon lightwardens are all named after a form of love and correlate to an event prior to that dungeon

[Jonnycbad]

So when the Exarch was explaining how calamities work, he shows 13 shards and shows them one by one glowing with an elemental aura and then a stream of that element overloading on the Source, causing the respective shard to be rejoined. We see Fire, Water, Wind, Ice, Lightning, Earth, and finally a blackish/redish aura corresponding to the 7th Umbral Calamity. Problem is, the 7th UC wasn't caused by aether overloading the Source resulting in a Firestorm/Flood/Hurricane/Ice Age/Thunder Storm/Earthquake etc. It was caused by mankind dropping Dalamud onto Eorzea. Events that were independent of aetheric balance being tipped. We know Bahamut was aspected to Astral (Darkness) and he can draw on the power of the Sun as the Dawn Wyrm (makes sense given his luminescent and brilliant "flare" attacks. So can someone elaborate more?