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[official_coconut]

That lore is very interesting. I had a suspicion that Viera were linked to the Ronkan empire. I wonder if after the main story for 5.0 is over if they'll introduce us to that Wood Warder. I'm still very far from Shadowbringers, but I assume as we help the First that we'd gain their trust over time.

[SturmChurro]

On the subject...

It may come down to their habitation ... habits. I'd find it odd if they precisely mirrored the Viera in their lifestyles, but perhaps the males live in separate villages in their case, some of which were wiped out by the sin eaters... total eradication would be a salient point for an NPC to bring up, but it was not, leading me to think it's not the case. They don't refer to themselves as doomed, so there must be something else going on. Either way, I really enjoyed the foray to their village.

More Vii lore

In spoilers.

These are Viis of The Ronkan Empire specifically descendants of the royal guard charged with protecting Ronkan ruins secrets in wait of Ronkan allies. It is implied that the Ronkan empire chose the Viis for their long lifespans as one reason for them to take up this objective. These are NOT your average Viis, and all other regular Viis would be referred to as "outsiders". This is a closed off group/tribe in that specific location. Again, these aren't viera, and these Viis are also all the Veena equivalent, there are no Rava to be found. I wouldn't look to deep in the first's lore around the equivalent races; they aren't the same.

On the subject of male viera, one of the sidequests has you assisting in the birth of a Viis child, but they don't allow you to see them. So that has to imply that there are still some males around, and this wasn't mentioned as seemingly "rare" thing either. Male Viis are still around, just not seen by you the player. Similarly, hrothgar females are also lightly touched in the MSQ when you need to activate the golem. How the ronso Magnus lost his wife in a cave in, he says her name, and her name is probably a ronso name, and he was having a child with her. I would assume she was a female ronso aka hrothgar.

[Gwenorai]

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/10chars because derp

Obvious spoilers below.

With me its the similarities in how they live. The Viera have the same lifestyle which is hard on the whole 'outsiders = no' unless there is something that allows them to reach out. For the VII it was the words of their passed Emperor who they have revered for centuries, protecting the ruins and the knowledge - this is reminiscent of the Viera who were also nomadic and then settled down and given a home by the wood. They now protect the wood and honour the female spirit/elemental of the wood. What's more, is that in one of the side quests the highest of the spiritual leaders - the shaman of rites etc, went up and just went 'our way of living is not sustainable anymore, we need help.' And thus now accepts outsiders as long as they help. This is the same questline that revolves around how one vii wishes to leave the wood - which is still exile at this time - but wishes to leave to find other vii and bring them back. While the twin that is staying behind is promising to make the village more accepting of these Vii. For which the shaman/spiritual leader agrees. I think said leader is also a Rava, her eyebrows are too on point. They're just not dark-skinned, they might not have a difference in clans. So vii who leave are allowed to come back. So, you do the quests you find that the Vii after centuries of living in such a way are changing. This could possibly be the same in the future for our Viera in the first going through similar situations. The Viera in the source are in danger, that is shown in the GNB storyline.

And due to what is happening in the Empire at the end of the available story... well... yeah. Anyway, this has shown that centuries of a way of living can be unravelled when the need for it arises. And finally, male Viera OP - imagining killing enemies 1hit KO, then scampering off before we even get to look at them. Least now it stops naysayers going 'There are no male Vii/Viera' because there most certainly are - and damn, do they aim to kill. Fingers crossed we finally see them!

[grinkdaboy]

i'd imagine that male viera will disperse into the world once there's no actual woods left for them to protect due to the black rose

[GlitterSqueak]

Adding support, still salty about this

[Lauront]

i'd imagine that male viera will disperse into the world once there's no actual woods left for them to protect due to the black rose

Hmm on that... spoilers ahead:

We'll see. Varis only ever intended to use it as a last resort, and Zenos doesn't intend to take the reins. He killed his father out of sheer spite and again is more interested in blood sport, but with a new twist. So unless someone takes control of the Empire with an intention to use it, it may never come to pass, especially since it seems to be the future we're trying to prevent. I also don't think it's at all necessary for their addition to go that far. I really want to see the males added now.

[Shahi]

We need male bunnies, i dont even care if its limited like females, hairstyles and whatever. Those can be added later.

[Duskane]

given how poorly finished viera and horthgar are right now (cant wear most head gear, not all hair, ect.) I doubt we'll be getting male viera any time soon :/

on the contrary you would expect them to be half finished and put more work for themselves
like Squadron and trust

[Nanami_Naniwa]

I wanted to be a male bunny. I wanted it so badly. I am happy now with my female Viera but I still - from the bottom of my heart - Support that one day male Viera will grace us with their appareance.

[AlphaFox]

On one hand I would really like to see Female Hrothgar and Male Viera just for the sake of more variety and I know it would make people happy. Yet at the same time, going on "Lore" I suppose I can also see it. Yet again at the same time it doesn't really line up when you consider they do exist and this isn't (at least to my knowledge as I have yet to do the Ivalice Raids) 100% in line so it would give them some freedom to expand. We already have an idea of how female Hrothgar could look from X/X-2 and male Viera the mock up idea looks good to me.