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    Yeah...

    How he somehow goes from being able to beat us AND most of the Scions to having trouble with just Thancred felt kind of silly and I was half-expecting that he was part sin eater or something to be that strong.
    though that's not the only power discrepancy that's kind of bugging me.

    *End of MSQ spoilers*

    Namely how Zenos apparently stomped Elidibus despite him being implied to be at least as strong as Emet-Selch (Who was so powerful that we needed help from the Scions and Ardbet as well as the excess light from the wardens to destroy him), which indicates he was somehow stronger then we were when we fought Elidibus despite him not even being in his original body.

    Elidibus didn't really indicate that he was struggling to deal with us aside from expressing surprise at how strong we had become, while he stated that he got overwhelmed by Zenos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Yeah...

    How he somehow goes from being able to beat us AND most of the Scions to having trouble with just Thancred felt kind of silly and I was half-expecting that he was part sin eater or something to be that strong.
    though that's not the only power discrepancy that's kind of bugging me.[/hb]
    Well this fight was the battle against.....

    Ryne's father. vs a Maddened general who saw himself as Ryne's father. Thancred may not have been this resolved in the past but this time he is because he already resolved himself to become the better Father for Ryne when he could not be for Minfilia because he spent most of his time working (making friends and flirting with girls to gather information) rather than helping raise Minfilia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    *End of MSQ spoilers*

    Namely how Zenos apparently stomped Elidibus despite him being implied to be at least as strong as Emet-Selch (Who was so powerful that we needed help from the Scions and Ardbet as well as the excess light from the wardens to destroy him), which indicates he was somehow stronger then we were when we fought Elidibus despite him not even being in his original body.

    Elidibus didn't really indicate that he was struggling to deal with us aside from expressing surprise at how strong we had become, while he stated that he got overwhelmed by Zenos.
    Regarding spoiler:
    Emet-Selch stated in the ShB story that Lahabrea became weaker because he so often switched bodies, while Emet-Selch prefer being in one body for as long as possible, and in the same form. That might be why Zenos could overpower Elidibus so, but it doesn't really account for Zenos also having switched bodies, so I don't know. We'll have to wait and see in future story patches I guess.

    Quote/banter during a MSQ:
    Elidibus:
    Be it for a year or a millennium, I prefer to retain the same form until my duty is done. So, after arriving here in the First, I fashioned some hapless body into the you see before you.

    Though as your friend over there can attest, there are those of us who forgo such alterations.

    He was ever the rash one, Lahabrea. Jumping from vessel to vessel. Never heeding the toll it took on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manamoppet View Post
    Regarding spoiler:
    Emet-Selch stated in the ShB story that Lahabrea became weaker because he so often switched bodies, while Emet-Selch prefer being in one body for as long as possible, and in the same form. That might be why Zenos could overpower Elidibus so, but it doesn't really account for Zenos also having switched bodies, so I don't know. We'll have to wait and see in future story patches I guess.

    Quote/banter during a MSQ:


    I think his overwhelming power is augmented by his temperament. It is totally Luca Blight-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Yeah...

    How he somehow goes from being able to beat us AND most of the Scions to having trouble with just Thancred felt kind of silly and I was half-expecting that he was part sin eater or something to be that strong.
    though that's not the only power discrepancy that's kind of bugging me.
    On this part.

    Thancred in the rp duty was giving everything he had, bringing himself to near death to fight Ran'jit to a standstill. Combine this with Minifillia's special ammo and it was only just enough. Compare that to us not too long after when we pretty handily beat him. Which itself could be said to be weird since he did have us beat in our first fight with him with allies but it could be chalked up to his rather special abilities compared to many foes we have faced, which could also be said to only work once unlike Zenos's overwhelming strength in his first two encounters.
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