WHM 5.0 First Impressions

[Maeka]

"For the people bemoaning the lack of ham in their sandwiches, butter is now soooo much cheaper. It's cheaper than bread now!"

Bread existing or butter being cheaper does not provide succor to those who liked having ham sandwiches as opposed to having buttered bread.

Also diminishing returns on stun take longer to reset than a pack generally lives for, so there's no reason to not chain cast holy. It's actually better if you just get it out of the way right at the beginning so that the tank can get full value out of their mitigation.

You should at least wait for the first Stun to wear off, before applying a second though.

If the first Stun lasts for 3 seconds and the second Stun lasts for 2 seconds... if you cast both back-to-back, you're wasting a second or so of Stun. *shrug*

But either way, Aero III and Holy are both DPS spells, one does direct damage DPS the other did DoT. Either way, it's a nice trade-off, of being able to cast more Holy than before.

But I suppose there's no pleasing some people, they'll find anything to complain about.

[IttyBitty]

You should at least wait for the first Stun to wear off, before applying a second though.

If the first Stun lasts for 3 seconds and the second Stun lasts for 2 seconds... if you cast both back-to-back, you're wasting a second or so of Stun. *shrug*

But either way, Aero III and Holy are both DPS spells, one does direct damage DPS the other did DoT. Either way, it's a nice trade-off, of being able to cast more Holy than before.

But I suppose there's no pleasing some people, they'll find anything to complain about.

Holy has a cast time of 2.5 seconds and a stun duration of 4 seconds (with DR leading to 4 > 2 > 1 > resist). You theoretically lose 1.5 seconds of stun if you chain cast Holy. Generally, Holy > Aero 3 > Holy > Holy is what people would do to maximize stun uptime if they cared enough about it. Since we don't have Aero 3 now, what are you doing between Holy casts 1 and 2? Nothing? Then you're failing your ABCs. Applying regen? You should already have it up during the pull, since you should be running alongside the tank. I guess now we can Holy > Misery > Holy > Holy, but we need a dumb lily readied to do that (and that only applies to level 74 and above).

WHM had absolutely zero issues casting Holy ever since Assize and Thin Air became a part of our kit. The cost is effectively meaningless for WHM until such a time as our mana economy changes.

[Shurrikhan]

You should at least wait for the first Stun to wear off, before applying a second though.

No, you shouldn't. At present, the stun won't (usually?) take effect anyways if there's already a stun effect up, so there is absolutely no reason for you to be wasting uptime like that.

Moreover, slight overlap, as previously possible, would actually be better than greater total stun time, given that unless there's been a recent change, enemy auto-attacks recharge while stunned. If there's a 3-second delay between a mob's auto-attacks, and you stun immediately after an AA, you've mitigated 0 damage. (This is, again, unless they changed that, too.)