unlimited frame rate option has been removed from the client on 5.0

[Histoire]

I'll chime in to say, I didn't spend several hundred in the past year to have a company decide my frame rate for me. Buzz off with the backward steps please. 144+ fps capable PCs are the future and denying that is just..well, silly from what is a very successful company.

I can't believe I logged out from a 144 fps game to return to it at 90. It isn't going to be good. Bots are a really poor excuse. I know people hate them, but I really think you're just screwing over regular ol' people here. Bots always have, and always will, find a way around it. The thing is, so will we. Someone'll patch or mod this out pretty quickly. It's wholly stupid in every aspect. There is no argument for this that would make a lick of sense.

[msoltyspl]

i ve been playing at 144 since 2.x, you know what?...i never find anything broken so idk what are these problems you talking about (and no out of bounds doesnt count, its harmless.), i understand you dont mean ill intention by writing what you did, but its simply not true.

Same here - although only for ~half a year since I upgraded to variable refresh rate monitor.

I have yet to see a single issue at any refresh rate (RTSS capped 140hz), and the amount of bullshit thrown between this place and reddit can really get on one nerves. No clothes issues, no boobs jiggling issues, no OOB issues, no any whatsoever fucking issues.

Yes, there're some peculiar places where unlocking fps can /supposedly/ make it easier to exploit geometry - then fix the fucking game if it's suddenly bothersome. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater after 6 years out of sheer laziness and/or ignorance.

On top of that the in-game frame limiter has been a broken junk since forever (with any and all bug reports consistently ignored), confused by anything more than 60 fps and adding significant input lag on its own. And combating input lag is THE main reason high refresh rate VRR monitors are getting purchased.

Either way 90fps hardcap is a joke, and one of many nails to the eventual coffin of this game. The expansion has brought quite a few already.

[Lumis_Arvalo]

I already said that I hope the fix gets reversed so that players can go back to their desired FPS. What I find confuddling is the exaggerated overreaction, which I do credit that you acknowledged. So I hope it gets fixed, but let's not scream the sky is falling because PC players have to deal with a horrendous 90 FPS.

90 FPS isn't horrendous, but it is objectively worse than 120+ when you've been used to that for 6 years at this point. I'm not saying the sky is falling, but a 25-30% reduction in FPS is going to be incredibly jarring for players regardless of what FPS you're talking about. If SE had capped it at 45 from 60, almost everyone would be up in arms about it and rightfully so. It 100% is going to heavily dampen the enjoyment of the game for myself and a number of others in this thread it seems, and frankly that's enough to warrant complaint about the change after 6 years of it being uncapped especially when no real context was given for the change. Capping FPS in this day and age is a monumentally stupid decision and any game engine that needs to tie things to the frame rate for them to work properly should find another way to do it instead.

If someone gave us some actual reasoning behind the change beyond the really stale "well we don't want people damaging their pc's" because that's a garbage reason, I think a lot less people would be up in arms. As it stands, it just seem arbitrary and ill thought-out.

[Lemuel81]

I'll chime in to say, I didn't spend several hundred in the past year to have a company decide my frame rate for me. Buzz off with the backward steps please. 144+ fps capable PCs are the future and denying that is just..well, silly from what is a very successful company.

I can't believe I logged out from a 144 fps game to return to it at 90. It isn't going to be good. Bots are a really poor excuse. I know people hate them, but I really think you're just screwing over regular ol' people here. Bots always have, and always will, find a way around it. The thing is, so will we. Someone'll patch or mod this out pretty quickly. It's wholly stupid in every aspect. There is no argument for this that would make a lick of sense.

I think it is fair that since they are the designers of this game that they should be able to dictate how their games will run and perform. I have not put all this time to progress in this game to use a mod and get myself banned. Seems pretty stupid. Hell I played this game with no issues on 50 fps due to playing it on a very old PC. I know I will be fine with just 90.

[Syphos]

I hope you're right, but even so. When I capped my FPS, it would drop an extra 10-20fps, and get stuttery. I hope that's fixed. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Ifitisnotfunwhyplay]

Eli85, we get that you think complaining about what could turn out to be a hard FPS cap is silly, but it seems you are missing the point that WaterShield so eloquently keeps stating and which I'll put a bit differently.

Those of us who have a system that can play at higher than 90FPS had no reason to expect that we would not be able to do so in ShB since we could in 2.0 and in every expansion since. I get that you don't care, and I don't actually care that you don't care. I'm simply trying to help make the point, for all concerned, that if SE really is artificially forcing players with powerful PCs to play below the FPS we can achieve--and blindsiding those players with this at the last last minute--it is just wrong. We shouldn't be placed in a position to think that as soon as we can complete the 5.0 download we need to see about that FPS thing. We should be able to just enjoy not being able to even see the NPC who starts off the new MSQ line, like always. We should not even have to think about whether the PCs we worked so hard to build or acquire are going to be allowed to perform as they were designed.

Calling those who feel miffed about being blindsided "comical" is even more wrong than the root issue. Please stop.

[sauc]

There's literally no good reason to defend this (being jealous you can't go that high is not a good reason). If any other game thats been up for years decided to randomly do this (and announce it like 2 days before release after they got all their pre-orders no less) their forums would go up in flames and it would get reverted.

I can only imagine if blizz tried to pull this off with wow the reception would be insane

[DrFlesh]

took that from reddit, 90 fps cap confirmed so is not a 1.5 refresh rate at all

edit: direct link to the image
https://i.vgy.me/OIgT8F.png

[Mistyregions]

So I have a serious question, I understand some of you on this very thread bought monitors etc to play 144+. What do you really expect when you are the ultra minority?

That being said, I imagine you are .1% of 14 million people. If I had to choose between stopping RMT while not blowing my budget on an engine rework, or catering to .1% of the population who runs equipment with the capability to use 144+, well it seems 90fps is what I would do as well.

Sadly just because you buy a Ferrari doesn't entitle you to drive over the speed limits in public places.

[MPK]

took that from reddit, 90 fps cap confirmed so is not a 1.5 refresh rate at all

edit: direct link to the image
https://i.vgy.me/OIgT8F.png

Great I can still play 144hz