Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[AxlStream]

Yoshi P and his team acknowledged the failures of both Diadem and Eureka and stated in an interview or maybe more than one that they are working on something much better that people will hopefully be excited to play. They're not stupid nor blind. I think that Eureka may have looked good on paper but once they put it in action, it didn't pan out as they had hoped.

Spoiler warning, it'll still fail. They are obsessed with a zone who's gameplay experience revolves around FATE like events, which are disliked by the community. The next iteration will be no different and it'll fail like the previous few. Also those calling Eureka fun, good on you but we all know a not insignificant amount of players stopped caring after the dumpster fire that Pagos was. Even after all the later zones inserted Logos which looked interesting, after all the nerfs, after BA was revealed. If Eureka went Anemos > Pyros > Hydratos, it would of been better received but Pagos was the wrench in the machine that made it all go to ruins for a great amount of players.

[DarkEiraStar]

I’m genuinely curious, what is your original statement here based on?

Even many single player JRPGs have difficulty that increases over time. If difficulty increases, then there surely must be some people for whom, somewhere along the way, the difficulty becomes too hard to continue. If you go outside classic turn-based JRPG design, it gets even more exacerbated. I can assure you there are people who never beat Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea’s main story due to the difficulty. And those aren’t Dark Souls. They aren’t even twitch reaction games. The strategy required is just beyond some people and/or their “fun limit.”

You definitely can’t rescue the princess from the castle if you consistently choke on the jumps in 8-1. That’s not a flaw in game design. That’s what makes Super Mario Bros a game instead of a movie.

To be clear this isn't even a matter of difficultly, its a matter of perception. OP perceives FFXIV as becoming too "easy" and therefore not fun. Yet how many people would really continue to pay $13-$15 a month if they could only access half or less of the content that they wanted to played because the game was designed only for the most skilled players.

The community in WoW ruined the game long before the current expansion. All endgame content became gated behind max item levels that you could only get by already having done the content. Hardcore and Midcore got to have an exclusive club and feel superior to the casuals that only were allowed a watered down version of the raids.

The first sign of an MOO dying is not the hardcore or the midcore leaving.

[Shirosama]

Stop with this nonsense.

If you haven't beaten savage and ultimate you have 0 to say about how "easy" the game is period.

[Myrasil]

Hard disagree. Eureka was some of the most fun I've ever had in an MMO. Probably on the same level as WoW: Burning Crusade. There was something about these mechanics in old MMOs that added to the overall enjoyment and reward you get.

Standing in a spot wating a fate spawn, rinse & repeat. "fun"

[SerLuke]

Standing in a spot wating a fate spawn, rinse & repeat. "fun"

Or maybe he was one of the people actually spawning the fates and having fun instead of standing around?

[Vahlnir]

Or maybe he was one of the people actually spawning the fates and having fun instead of standing around?

There's nothing necessarily fun about spawning them either. Kill x amount of mobs to spawn y. Sooo thrilling and engaging!

[Nariel]

Or maybe he was one of the people actually spawning the fates and having fun instead of standing around?

Mashing one button on a defenseless HPsponge, rinse & repeat. "fun"

[SerLuke]

Obviously he was having fun doing it or he wouldn’t have said it, who are you guys to tell me he was wrong for enjoying it?

[Vahlnir]

Obviously he was having fun doing it or he wouldn’t have said it, who are you guys to tell me he was wrong for enjoying it?

They are free to enjoy it if they want to. We are just as free to disagree with their idea of fun.

[SerLuke]

That’s fine but the way some of you guys are posting is that someone is wrong for enjoying something that you don’t. People enjoy different things, For example, I hate fishing in the game, I find it tedious and boring and too much of a time sink, I know others that freaking love it and can’t get enough of it, to each their own.

As for Eureka, I enjoyed Pyros and Hydatos esp with getting to mess around with the different logos actions, I hope if Eureka like content does happen again it’s more like those two and less like Anemos and Pagos at launch.