What is a 'bad player'?

[trinta]

That guy is an unfortunate part of any gaming community. I have to assume they have nothing in their life that they can control except video games, so the only way they can feel good about themselves is to act like that.

Try not to let it get you down, and make it a policy not to run with people like that. If someone joins the group that you're uncomfortable with, kick them if you're in a position to, and leave if you're not. It's your gaming time, you decide who you spend it with.

[Giant]

"Bad Player" ==> SE

SE is the 'bad player' here
They made it hard and will make it harder later on

SE definition of 'challenge' is to make the fight win'able by a group of people who are very skilled and their re-action score is 0.2 or less

Other game developers define the 'challenge' by simple word 'tactic' find it and it is easy win

To be honest, I don't blame a party that kick someone or ignore him and never invite him... this party want the win > friendly

if you want to blame, it is SE to make is like this ^-^/

oh, the hardcore who want it this way so only THEM win /Enrage

Hey, no offense ^-^

[AdvancedWind]

@topic:

I would only consider someone a "bad player" if he not only did not know basic game mechanics, but also did not try to learn them or improve himself, and ignores any good criticism, opnion or tip someone shares with him. Someone who's genuinely trying to learn and know how to make good use of other player's hints'n tips is a good player in a my book, as far as "skill" goes.

Using Ifrit battle as an example, I'm not talking about the guy who might be wanting to try out a "bad" setup, or that dies at every eruption because he's having a hard time evading it. I'm talking about the guy that keeps using Firaga and ignoring when someone points out he's doing nothing but heal the beast.

"Bad Player" ==> SE

SE is the 'bad player' here
They made it hard and will make it harder later on

SE definition of 'challenge' is to make the fight win'able by a group of people who are very skilled and their re-action score is 0.2 or less

Other game developers define the 'challenge' by simple word 'tactic' find it and it is easy win

To be honest, I don't blame a party that kick someone or ignore him and never invite him... this party want the win > friendly

if you want to blame, it is SE to make is like this ^-^/

oh, the hardcore who want it this way so only THEM win /Enrage

Hey, no offense ^-^

No offense but, once figured, all of the current endgame fights are relatively simple and can be easily done even with random people you never met, provided they know what they are doing. Yes, the battles are not exactly "easy" and require a major initial effort to discover their quirks (Plume zones, ghost moves, moogle kill order, etc), devise good tactics around those quirks and perfect em, but after you do that it's a matter knowing basic game mechanics. Unless you want to be server first, they're hardly "hardcore only".

[SniperRifle]

Bad players blame others, good players blame themselves, and better themselves from it.

The italics part is key to being a good player.

[Soukyuu]

"Bad Player" ==> SE

Oh so SE is now making people into elitist pricks? lol

[Shneibel]

@Op: just block him, dont need to play with those jerk, really

For me "bad" player = player that cant play the game which =/= nub

and the player you mention above is a bad attitude player

[Junpei]

I had a player like this in a group yesterday. 2 Of my LS got together for a moogle run.

I wont lie when I say one of the groups generally has more "Talented" players. But it didn't help that the other group had some snotty brats.

At the end of the fight (which resulted in a loss) a player was bragging about how good his DPS was and that everyone else was dragging him down.

FORTUNATELY! the fight data was parsed and it turns out he was 5000 damage behind the second lowest and 10000 damage away from being the top!

Oh and how the excuses did flow "i was using shadowbind!" "it takes time to swap targets" ... yeah cause nobody else does that!


The issue is, some players are all talk and will always blame their faults on others. Some times though these players are genuinely good but are just big headed. Dont worry though, as there are plenty of nice people out there who have the skills to pay the bills and are more than willing to teach!

[Miche_Chou]

So sorry to hear that you experienced something like that I am a girl and cry easily as well when some people are a bit harsh so, I know exactly how you feel... Being on the same server as you I have an idea of who it could be or where that person came from, and you definitely shouldn't let the bullies like that bother you >_< He/she was probably upset at themselves for their poor performance and was looking for someone else to blame or take their frustrations out on... Our LS does Ifrit/Moogle runs quite often with THMs (successfully too!) so, I don't know what that meanie was talking about. There are good people on the server though so, don't let some insignificant unhappy creep ruin the game for you!

[MeowyWowie]

"Bad Player" ==> SE

SE is the 'bad player' here
They made it hard and will make it harder later on

SE definition of 'challenge' is to make the fight win'able by a group of people who are very skilled and their re-action score is 0.2 or less

Other game developers define the 'challenge' by simple word 'tactic' find it and it is easy win

To be honest, I don't blame a party that kick someone or ignore him and never invite him... this party want the win > friendly

if you want to blame, it is SE to make is like this ^-^/

oh, the hardcore who want it this way so only THEM win /Enrage

Hey, no offense ^-^

No offense but I'm pretty sure both hardcore and casual players alike asked for difficult content. Nothing about FFXIV is hardcore at all. SE is not to blame here, because quite honestly there is absolutely nothing in this game that should cause anyone to act like an elitist snob.

As AdvancedWind pointed out, hard content is only hard until a strategy is formed. The OP, who is a casual player, did NOT want to follow someone else's strategy because she obviously welcomed the challenge and wanted to form her own.

The only person to blame here is the douchebag who thought he's god's gift to FFXIV players, that's all there is to it.

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Like others have said, the bad player in your story is him, he sounds like a complete ass -.- I dislike people like that myself, dont let him get to you though, block him and laugh at how much he sucks ;p

As far as how you preformed in the Moogle fight, best thing to do is to look at how you did, if you felt you did good, then fine, but if you felt you could have done better, then look at how you did it, and see what you could do to improve, better gear, more food/potions, or it honestly could just be the game itself right now.