What is a 'bad player'?

[Mamba]

So, like the title says… what in your opinion makes a bad player?

Here’s my story:
I am a really casual player – only during the Christmas holidays got my 2nd job to 50 even though I have been playing on and off since Alpha testing!!! – so you could say that I am not a big time gamer and I admit that I probably can’t do as well as some other people who play their jobs on a daily basis. I am not stupid though, I listen when people teach me and I try to live up for the expectations.

During the Christmas break I was doing Moogle battle and me and my friend were trying to figure out different tactics to do this fight… neither of us had ever done this before and we didn’t read at first how other’s had done it so we would make our own experience.
We got many likeminded people to join us and we lost the fight at least 20 times (we had fun though!!)

Then we had a person join us who came on the run with the attitude that he was a gift from gods to us that we would never do the run without him. Well, we lost on few occasions again and then we gave up for the day.

On the weekend, I was doing Ifrit fight to see if I could get a weapon since last time I didn’t get anything and this same guy joined our run. My friend who was making the party told me that he wasn’t going to join the run if I went as THM which got me really baffled (At the time I only had THM @ 50). I know I wasn’t doing great damage on Moogle fight because of MP issues but I did burn down the first moogle in no time (being highest DPS until well… the MP issues started). I also helped binding the moogles after 2h and stunned as well… so I wanted to know why in his opinion I was doing so bad.

I sent him a tell asking (politely) why he thinks my THM sucks and instead of actually giving me any kind of constructive criticism he started bashing me how people like me disgust him, how he hates “carrying” people through fights etc. etc. He got really rude and in the end I left the party in the verge of tears because I had no idea what I had done to make him hate me so much (Yes I am a girl, I cry easy, sue me!)

I didn’t play almost at all the following day (yesterday) and was considering quitting since I didn’t want to come across people like him ever again. I thought that I was such a lost cause, a really bad player that no one would ever want to do any fights with me.
Then I had a chat with my linkshell people (which are all really lovely) and they encouraged me to stay and only do runs with them from now on, (which I will because maybe they can actually teach me play right if I indeed do so badly).

I think… the guy who was a jerk is the WORST kind of player a game can have (not me, even though I can suck on some occasions). A narrow-minded elitist brick who only sees one direction from his high chair and considers anyone lesser (i.e. a person who doesn’t play 24/7, have full double material on all gear etc.) is not worth his time (except for insults).

[Xoo]

A bad player is one who tips the balance between either an inability to learn the mechanics of gameplay and to apply them efficiently, and/or one you just described.

[ApplePie]

A bad player is one who tips the balance between either an inability to learn the mechanics of gameplay and to apply them efficiently, and/or one you just described.

Oh god.... The irony in this statement.... coming from this person.... is sweet justice for 2012. My year is complete. Can I have 2013 now?

[Xoo]

Oh god.... The irony in this statement.... coming from this person.... is sweet justice for 2012. My year is complete. Can I have 2013 now?

Yeah yeah, Apple. I know we all can't be as good as you think you are.

[ApplePie]

Yeah yeah, Apple. I know we all can't be as good as you think you are.

Nope, but we can all spam job abilities, stand in front of mages, and then kill them continually with breath attacks. amirite?

[Xoo]

Nope, but we can all spam job abilities, stand in front of mages, and then kill them continually with breath attacks. amirite?

Oh, is that when someone else was supposed to be tanking? Besides, that shit is soooo old. Like, back when Raging Strike > Provoke.

Are we going to also remember that I first brought up strats for killing Dodore, Incapping Haughtpox and to some degree, Mosshorn? (And I'll go ahead and mention that I did use Obsess on Dodore once, for good reason) :P

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

I understand your frustration.

I'm sure you'll get some lengthy replies, but I'll just keep this simple.

Bottom line is, a group is not made by a single player. It takes the coordination of the entire group doing well in order to win things like moogle fight.

The fact that you were losing is an indication that your group was performly poorly. Perhaps you were contributing to this, perhaps you were the best player in the group. It doesn't matter though unless everyone knows what they are doing and are doing it correctly.

[vax]

You pretty much said what is a bad player. That dude, he's a bad player. People that doesn't know they are playing a game and it's all about getting fun.

Yes, everyone loves to win but, when you stop playing a game, you don't remember those runs that you won, you only remember the fun, how you or another member make the pt wipe by a mistake, etc.

[Lumidus]

That's funny he said thm sucks for Ifrit. It's one of the best and most fun classes to play for ifrit. And Yes thats a bad player. Don't worry though, Players like that tend to give themselves a bad name and it spreads around the server.

[MeowyWowie]

You just met an elitist prick, that's all. Don't let people like that get to you.

What surprises me is why someone with that attitude is doing Ifrit and Moogle with pick up groups. Usually "good" players as he makes himself out to be stick to their linkshell for endgame activities. May be possible that he's just a douche and that keeps him from joining a good LS? /shrug

Anyways, don't let him get to you, or anyone like that for that matter. You're bound to meet more people like this in the future. Just ignore them and have fun