What is a 'bad player'?

[MeowyWowie]

"Bad Player" ==> SE

SE is the 'bad player' here
They made it hard and will make it harder later on

SE definition of 'challenge' is to make the fight win'able by a group of people who are very skilled and their re-action score is 0.2 or less

Other game developers define the 'challenge' by simple word 'tactic' find it and it is easy win

To be honest, I don't blame a party that kick someone or ignore him and never invite him... this party want the win > friendly

if you want to blame, it is SE to make is like this ^-^/

oh, the hardcore who want it this way so only THEM win /Enrage

Hey, no offense ^-^

No offense but I'm pretty sure both hardcore and casual players alike asked for difficult content. Nothing about FFXIV is hardcore at all. SE is not to blame here, because quite honestly there is absolutely nothing in this game that should cause anyone to act like an elitist snob.

As AdvancedWind pointed out, hard content is only hard until a strategy is formed. The OP, who is a casual player, did NOT want to follow someone else's strategy because she obviously welcomed the challenge and wanted to form her own.

The only person to blame here is the douchebag who thought he's god's gift to FFXIV players, that's all there is to it.

[Shneibel]

@Op: just block him, dont need to play with those jerk, really

For me "bad" player = player that cant play the game which =/= nub

and the player you mention above is a bad attitude player

[Junpei]

I had a player like this in a group yesterday. 2 Of my LS got together for a moogle run.

I wont lie when I say one of the groups generally has more "Talented" players. But it didn't help that the other group had some snotty brats.

At the end of the fight (which resulted in a loss) a player was bragging about how good his DPS was and that everyone else was dragging him down.

FORTUNATELY! the fight data was parsed and it turns out he was 5000 damage behind the second lowest and 10000 damage away from being the top!

Oh and how the excuses did flow "i was using shadowbind!" "it takes time to swap targets" ... yeah cause nobody else does that!


The issue is, some players are all talk and will always blame their faults on others. Some times though these players are genuinely good but are just big headed. Dont worry though, as there are plenty of nice people out there who have the skills to pay the bills and are more than willing to teach!

[Miche_Chou]

So sorry to hear that you experienced something like that I am a girl and cry easily as well when some people are a bit harsh so, I know exactly how you feel... Being on the same server as you I have an idea of who it could be or where that person came from, and you definitely shouldn't let the bullies like that bother you >_< He/she was probably upset at themselves for their poor performance and was looking for someone else to blame or take their frustrations out on... Our LS does Ifrit/Moogle runs quite often with THMs (successfully too!) so, I don't know what that meanie was talking about. There are good people on the server though so, don't let some insignificant unhappy creep ruin the game for you!

[TheFatHousecat]

He got really rude and in the end I left the party in the verge of tears because I had no idea what I had done to make him hate me so much (Yes I am a girl, I cry easy, sue me!)

So sorry to hear that you experienced something like that I am a girl and cry easily as well when some people are a bit harsh so, I know exactly how you feel...

Giving female gamers a bad name, everyday :I

[Mamba]

Giving female gamers a bad name, everyday :I

lol, what's wrong with expressing your emotions? I love being able to say I am a girl that is allowed to cry haha (tbh I would be the same even if I was a guy probably)

[Mihana]

lol, what's wrong with expressing your emotions? I love being able to say I am a girl that is allowed to cry haha (tbh I would be the same even if I was a guy probably)

Just ignore comments like that. But on subject, I'm sorry to say you'll find those type of players often. Currently I only got 3 jobs at 50 myself (1 on a different character.) and I've been playing since the first day the collector's edition arrived. Personally I just see it as nothing to get upset over when you meet elitist a-holes like that. You probably wouldn't want to play with that person anyway with that type of attitude towards stuff. I'm pretty sure I've seen you before on Besaid, if you need an archer (Or conjurer soon when I get that to 50!) for Ifrit or Primal battles give me a ring! I've never beaten Ifrit yet myself but I've done the battles enough time to almost have it down pretty well. Next on my list is giving that Moogle a try...

[Kailea_Nagisa]

Like others have said, the bad player in your story is him, he sounds like a complete ass -.- I dislike people like that myself, dont let him get to you though, block him and laugh at how much he sucks ;p

As far as how you preformed in the Moogle fight, best thing to do is to look at how you did, if you felt you did good, then fine, but if you felt you could have done better, then look at how you did it, and see what you could do to improve, better gear, more food/potions, or it honestly could just be the game itself right now.

[Colino]

I'm gonna play devil's advocate here for a moment.

Where you considering and applying any of the advise given to you?

I'm not saying the way he treated you was proper (idiots will be idiots, he's just another basement dweller who would never say anything like that to someone in real life) but sometimes, you need to understand, it really is frustrating to try and give someone some feedback or some minor criticism only to see it fly through one ear and exit the other.

I'm not doubting you know how to play the game (it's not that hard, let's face it) but maybe keep your mind open and try something different? Think about it, if you use his suggestions and die even more, all you can say is "I told you so"!

On another note, a bad player is someone who doesn't play the game and thinks he/she is actually capable of giving any sort of advice. Take from that what you want.

[Mamba]

Ah thanks people for the positive responses, you've made me feel a lot better

To answer you:

Where you considering and applying any of the advise given to you?

He didn't give me any advice, his comments went along the line "you suck, you shouldn't play the game, you are only leeching to get through fights etc. etc." And when I asked why he thought that, he said that it was not his job to teach me and I should just stop playing if it was so hard for me... (not with such nice words though).

I actually like it when people give me critisism because at least then I know what I am doing wrong. The game didn't exactly come with a manual so I think only way you learn is to try > fail > learn> succeed and in some cases you won't realize what you are doing wrong until someone points it out.