Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[VargasVermillion]

I miss pre-nerf Pharos Syrius so badly. I failed the timer once (due largely to one person d/cing constantly) and it was not remotely worth its rewards, but damn was it fun.

Speaking of, though, remember original Demon Wall?...

I forgot about the demon wall, that was another unnecessary change, esp looking at it now. At the time people found this hard titan HM was the hardest fight in the game for a lot of people lol

[RitsukoSonoda]

The majority of challenge with most of the end game content in this game as it stands before Shadowbringers is finding enough competent people to form a group and do it. I wish game companies in general would stop dumbing down everything to appease the people that want everything but don't want to grow as a player and go the route of "if you really want it then get good enough to earn it". If that portion of the community cries about being "gated" out of content just point out that they're the ones gating themselves by refusing to improve themselves.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

The majority of challenge with most of the end game content in this game as it stands before Shadowbringers is finding enough competent people to form a group and do it. I wish game companies in general would stop dumbing down everything to appease the people that want everything but don't want to grow as a player and go the route of "if you really want it then get good enough to earn it". If that portion of the community cries about being "gated" out of content just point out that they're the ones gating themselves by refusing to improve themselves.

Is their $15 + xpac purchases worth less than yours?

[AxlStream]

Is their $15 + xpac purchases worth less than yours?

I bet you were one of those that pissed and moan about not getting to fight Neo Ex-death and God Kefka when you realized they were savage exclusive bosses. Let people that go into the higher difficulty tiers have their own things. Let them be recognized for it.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Is their $15 + xpac purchases worth less than yours?

How is that response even relevant? All it does is make you look like one of the people I mentioned with toxic entitlement issues that has been dragging down the entire gaming industry in general. If you want to play the game by only pushing 3 buttons then feel free to do so. However don't cry like an entitled child when you're unable to clear content because you personally refuse to adapt and get better at the game and you've run out of people willing to carry you. Another thing missing in these people is integrity. In their mind they are never the one at fault. It has to be someone else's fault. The game developer made the game too hard, blah blah blah. This part generally extends to their life as a whole. One of the primary causes of this is too many people being more concerned about being liked so they make excuses for these people rather than just saying what needs to be actually said.

[axetotheface]

Same old... Same old

Make hard content : " please tune it down, think about people with job and have no time to invest"
Make easy/ easier content " this game is for dumb people, no need to play it anymore"

This is true for every mmo

The big question for wow : " Will they dare to make leveling, dungeon and questing harder?"
The big question for ff 14 " will they decide to include lvl boost and story skip with every new expansion ? "

FF 14 is "fine", the content for people who just want to que and play solo or minimal interaction is hard enough.... at least the dev always reminded us about the importance of mechanic.

Alliance Raid or ff 14 's LFR also follow this path of "Do mechanic"

At least when someone wipe in ff 14 it is because they are new or screw mechanic and not because they are not installing add-on

In the end

WoW is better MMO
A. massive subs count even today
B. massive twitch presence
C.,Worlld's first mythic clear still means something

FF 14 is better RPG
A. Writing is superior to today's wow
B. Job still feels unique
C. basically you are playing FF with multiplayer

[NekoNova]

How is that response even relevant? All it does is make you look like one of the people I mentioned with toxic entitlement issues that has been dragging down the entire gaming industry in general. If you want to play the game by only pushing 3 buttons then feel free to do so. However don't cry like an entitled child when you're unable to clear content because you personally refuse to adapt and get better at the game and you've run out of people willing to carry you. Another thing missing in these people is integrity. In their mind they are never the one at fault. It has to be someone else's fault. The game developer made the game too hard, blah blah blah. This part generally extends to their life as a whole. One of the primary causes of this is too many people being more concerned about being liked so they make excuses for these people rather than just saying what needs to be actually said.

You can't whine about toxic entitlement if you're getting this upset about people doing the same content as you.

[guardin]

put "WOW" and "easy" in the title and watch the fireworks fly. Profit OP

[DavidIven]

You can't whine about toxic entitlement if you're getting this upset about people doing the same content as you.

when people in his group cant even do basic mechanics and job rotation, he has any right to be upset. Its a group content, they should pull their weight, take the constructive feedback, improve themselves instead of throwing "you dont pay my sub".

[Hazama999]

I don't necessarily agree with the topic on all fronts but damn, do I miss the experience that was Amdapor Keep and Pharos Sirius in its original state. Back in 2.0, and to some extent, 2.1, that's how I thought dungeons were gonna be going forward. That being the difficulty of Pharos Sirius. This was, unfortunately, not the case...

Oh well, I still enjoy the dungeons, even if they are easy.

:]