Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[Shurrikhan]

Saw mechanic. Didn't recognize word. Looked like starboard. But wasn't starboard. So probably opposite of starboard. If he's shooting opposite of starboard, I guess I dodge starboard?

Mechanic complete.

[Mistyregions]

If you up the difficulty the community will be at each other's throats because you'll end up with more failure and more wipes. People already have meltdowns when something goes wrong. Are you prepared for more of that?

I am, I imagine it will push people out who are both toxic and unskilled at the same time.

You know some people are born mechanical engineers and are great at it and get paid mad money for it, and some people can't hold a job because the timer on the fryer on macdonalds is to hard to grasp, and get paid minimum wage for minimum skill.

We dont dumb down mechanical engineering so a unskilled person can do it. We dont increase the fry cooks paycheck to the mechanical engineer, that solves nothing, creates resentment and more problems.

That's life yo, not everything need to be handicapped accessible. There is a line in the sand you dont cross otherwise you end up like World of Warcraft. They crossed it.

They started putting in wheelchair mounts at the theme park, and removing regular seats for the sake of "accessibility "sometimes..the general population of people in wheelchairs cant access the same stuff as normal people.

That's the line, the game may never be accessible to everyone and that's ok, keep the game fun and interesting for the audience you have and maintain the company. That's life and the way the cookie crumbles. You can straw man my argument or scream at me, or call me names. That is just not the way life works and it cannot change in the near future no matter how much you try to push unrealistic expectations and slander the reality of life.

TLDR some people are born unskilled and they can't play the game. Also side note as person who was in a wheelchair this, is not an attack.

[Tint]

There is a left and right in the ivalice raid and people can't dodge that, it's not the wording it the ability to read the "casting" bar on top of the enemy hp bar that people struggle with. Why do you think no one tanks? You have to know when a buster is coming to swap or buff.

And now imagine you are tanking the boss and he casts left or right but because you are facing the boss from the front right is actually left and left is actually right... >.>

And no, the problem is not reading the casting bar. The problem is that a lot of people actually have problems to tell where is left and where is right, myself included. For some reason I have less problems with knowing where left is, but right is a problem. It takes me around 2 seconds to remember wich word stands for wich side, and thats too slow to react to the castbar.

Funfact: I have less problems with starboard and larboard than with left and right.

[Mistyregions]

And now imagine you are tanking the boss and he casts left or right but because you are facing the boss from the front right is actually left and left is actually right... >.>

And no, the problem is not reading the casting bar. The problem is that a lot of people actually have problems to tell where is left and where is right, myself included. For some reason I have less problems with knowing where left is, but right is a problem. It takes me around 2 seconds to remember wich word stands for wich side, and thats too slow to react to the castbar.

Funfact: I have less problems with starboard and larboard than with left and right.

What you said makes sense, I guess that reaction time is just skill gap, some people are fighter pilots and some people can barely walk in a straight line. Practice and some content might be harder than other. I think you can do it.

[Fynlar]

It even telegraphs in the normal mode. No reason to be an idiot, tbh.

The "telegraphs" are pretty much useless when they are shown for a fraction of a second.

SB did this a lot, and I really don't understand why. It might as well just show nothing anyway. Unless a move has like Bahamut's Teraflare-style graphics that cover the whole screen (which usually they don't, if they only hit a designated area), it's not that difficult to tell more or less where a move hits after the fact. The direction of Omega's laser during the animation is all you really need to know whether you screwed up or not.

[Aurelius2625]

Are some people seriously so dense as to not TURN THEIR CAMERA AROUND so that it's the party's view of the boss? I do this all the time, so that Left is truly left, and right is right. You can still execute all skills, abilities, move, etc... just fine because you can run through the boss. It doesn't matter what your character's actual position is, just as long as they are in the right position i.e. tank is opposite of party. In Tsukuyomi, this is a god send. I can't believe this isn't something natural.

[Aurelius2625]

The "telegraphs" are pretty much useless when they are shown for a fraction of a second.

SB did this a lot, and I really don't understand why. It might as well just show nothing anyway. Unless a move has like Bahamut's Teraflare-style graphics that cover the whole screen (which usually they don't, if they only hit a designated area), it's not that difficult to tell more or less where a move hits after the fact. The direction of Omega's laser during the animation is all you really need to know whether you screwed up or not.

How about if you get hit with it, you make a note of what hit you, when, and what it was called? Like, look at the castbar... "Ah shit, Larboard? What's that?" you get hit by standing left. "oh, it hits on the left side of the boss, since my buddies on the right side are okay, Guess I have to stand to the right of the boss when he does Larboard, neat". Problem solved. That's what blind progging is. How do you think people MAKE guides? They get hit with things they have no idea what they are, make a note of what they do, read debuffs, and make a note to change things until the sequence is done right. That's how learning happens. So if someone still doesn't know a mechanic and what it does theoretically after like, four times... I gotta question their ability to reason.

[Shurrikhan]

The "telegraphs" are pretty much useless when they are shown for a fraction of a second.

SB did this a lot, and I really don't understand why. It might as well just show nothing anyway. Unless a move has like Bahamut's Teraflare-style graphics that cover the whole screen (which usually they don't, if they only hit a designated area), it's not that difficult to tell more or less where a move hits after the fact. The direction of Omega's laser during the animation is all you really need to know whether you screwed up or not.

So that if you didn't understand from the words that Larboard = Left, you very clearly see from the telegraph that Larboard = Left, and dodge accordingly next time.

Remember how we started getting a ton of vuln mechanics as well, so that you have a chance to learn from the first couple failures instead of being killed outright? Same logic.

[Aurelius2625]

Or ooor.... we could use a normal term that everyone on the planet uses thats up to date. No need for name calling damn. It'll be one thing if people were asking for it to not do the move. Thats not what was being talked about. I'm not even saying it's still a problem NOW. what I AM saying is those terms tripped alot of people up when it was new and that wouldn't have happened if it simply used left right up and down. Is it that hard to understand or do we need to call everyone a moron cause SE used out of date terms? It's not the players fault SE used something so out of touch and date. Heck when the japanese players get LEFT and RIGHT why couldn't we get that also? Is all I'm saying.

You don't need to KNOW what a mechanic's name refers to, just what it DOES, that's why even though the giant circle mechanic in final omega is called "Critical Overflow Bug" people refer to it as a "Defamation" even though it's LITERALLY not called that, because it behaves the same way that "Defamation" in Soul of the Creator: Savage (Alexander Prime A12s) behaves. People in this example are using something in TEXT guides for a fight mechanic that is not called a Defamation, because it's easy for them to explain it to otherss that way. So people are learning, and resolving a mechanic called "Critical Overflow Bug" in Final Omega, calling it a "Defamation" because that's what the text guide for the fight calls it... Even though IT IS NOT CALLED THAT.

Imagine that. Most PFs and players have no idea what the actual thing is called, and can resolve it by looking at a red dot and thinking mentally, "Oh, red dot, gotta run away" instead of processing, "Oh, Critical Overflow Bug... what was that one again??????? OH NO!"

Look at what the thing DOES rather than what it is CALLED. Your life will be easier for it.

I have literally NO IDEA what the Tsunami Debuff is called in Chaos/O9 but I know that if I get a blue thing on me, I will have a water donut around me when the thing ticks down.

[Fynlar]

How about if you get hit with it, you make a note of what hit you, when, and what it was called? Like, look at the castbar... "Ah shit, Larboard? What's that?" you get hit by standing left. "oh, it hits on the left side of the boss, since my buddies on the right side are okay, Guess I have to stand to the right of the boss when he does Larboard, neat". Problem solved. That's what blind progging is. How do you think people MAKE guides? They get hit with things they have no idea what they are, make a note of what they do, read debuffs, and make a note to change things until the sequence is done right. That's how learning happens. So if someone still doesn't know a mechanic and what it does theoretically after like, four times... I gotta question their ability to reason.

Some people have more difficulty staying on top of that and knowing whether to left/right than others. You can blame it on their "ability to reason" or spatial awareness or whatever you like.

But all that wasn't my point anyway. All I was saying is that the ground telegraph is pretty much useless when it's only there for a fraction of a second.