Over-priced Microtransactions!!! PLEASE FIX THIS!!!

[Camiie]

Can't believe how many people defend Square Enix pricing decisions in this. Just so you know op, I'm totally with you.

Yes, those things are optional but the prices are just exploitative.

So what is the correct price exactly? It's easy to say that something is wrong. Now tell us what's right.

[NealSnow]

If you think xiv has a horrid shop let's just look at eso. To my knowledge as I quit long ago: Can't earn pets, can't earn cool mounts. For the cash shop? housing that can cost 10-150$ mini dlc that would normally be patch content, ability to play any race any alliance, a locked race, locked pvp content, classes, cool pets, cool mounts, and everyone's fav loot boxes which are actually microtransactons. Oh and it does always try to sell you something the shops ingame.

So if after that you still think xiv's is bad or horrid, yeahh... than sorry to say you just want free stuff for no effort because if you want a cool pet or mount in xiv, you can earn it... I know putting in effort for a mount? Crazy but if not sure you can pay, but not for free. So pick one, either earn or pay for stuff or both.

I bought the bike day one. Why? Because I am a ff7 fan, and I do love supporting the devs because they actually give a damn. If you are unwilling to put effort in for something or can't afford it don't, but don't expect handouts the world has never and will never work that way. If you can't save up for a 24 dollar mount you really should worry about your irl situation vs a in-game mount that mat or may not even be as cool as the earnable mounts.

[AlliciaCapulet]

So what is the correct price exactly? It's easy to say that something is wrong. Now tell us what's right.

The correct price is free. We pay for the game. We pay a subscription. We pay the expansion. We should have access to everything at least once free in the game, when it's past event items on a cash shop, I don't mind, but when we never had a chance to get them for free, I have troubles with that.

I understand that a game needs income to make patchs, that's why we have a subscription. yes, some of the fees will pay for the server, but it's not 100% of the price of the subscription. If you calculate, we pay 12$ * 12 months, so 144$ for a subscription, and add to that 30$ per year if you buy the digital collector (60$) every 2 years. That makes 174$ US (Since I live in Canada, I will specify that) on the game, for every players. We already pay more than enough for everything.

But, SE is just using FFXIV to make easy money since there is lots of players who are like "this is how the gaming is these days" and accept the situation. On that, we should not be on the side of SE, it's not even Yoshi-p who wants that, it's the greedy direction from SE. There is no way to try to justify that.

It would be ok to just sell past event items, and again, what a right price would be? Something like 5$ since there is so many events in a years, so every new player would be able to buy those and SE could get some extra money.

But, a mount like the fat cat - who is just a larger version of the fat cat minion, so there is not a lot of work there - for 24$... that's just ridiculous, and yet... some people buy it...

[gumas]

The correct price is free. We pay for the game. We pay a subscription. We pay the expansion.

i have a car, i pay for this car. do i get free upgrade? i want my car to have spoiler and "optional" stuff, do i get it for free?

my personal suggestion is leave the price as it is. but once every months, discount it down like 50% or something, that should get people interest

[AlliciaCapulet]

i have a car, i pay for this car. do i get free upgrade? i want my car to have spoiler and "optional" stuff, do i get it for free?

my personal suggestion is leave the price as it is. but once every months, discount it down like 50% or something, that should get people interest

Your example doesn't work because here, you paid for the car, then you paid for extra. Here, we paid the game when we buy it, and we keep buying it every months. I would not complain to anything in the cash shop if they remove the subscription, but since we pay a subescription so they have income to develop the game, I expect to have access to the content, since I already paid for it. I know it can be hard to understand, but that's what it is. There is no argument that make sense to justify to have to pay again when we already have a subscription. As I said, it's subscription/access to everything, or freetoplay/cash shop. Trying to justify both is just greedy and there is no justification. That's just a big problem from the gaming model we have lately.

[Joven]

Your example doesn't work because here, you paid for the car, then you paid for extra. Here, we paid the game when we buy it, and we keep buying it every months. I would not complain to anything in the cash shop if they remove the subscription, but since we pay a subescription so they have income to develop the game, I expect to have access to the content, since I already paid for it. I know it can be hard to understand, but that's what it is. There is no argument that make sense to justify to have to pay again when we already have a subscription. As I said, it's subscription/access to everything, or freetoplay/cash shop. Trying to justify both is just greedy and there is no justification. That's just a big problem from the gaming model we have lately.

We're paying a subscription to maintain servers, cover other maintenance costs and updates and patches, not just content. I'm honestly surprised at the amount of extra content they offer during patches for the amount of the subscription fee we pay.

[Kaedan]

Your example doesn't work because here, you paid for the car, then you paid for extra. Here, we paid the game when we buy it, and we keep buying it every months. I would not complain to anything in the cash shop if they remove the subscription, but since we pay a subescription so they have income to develop the game, I expect to have access to the content, since I already paid for it. I know it can be hard to understand, but that's what it is. There is no argument that make sense to justify to have to pay again when we already have a subscription. As I said, it's subscription/access to everything, or freetoplay/cash shop. Trying to justify both is just greedy and there is no justification. That's just a big problem from the gaming model we have lately.

Our subscriptions pay for the monthly updates and major patches every 2-3 months. If we didn't pay subs, then all we would get is the initial content at release of the expansion with occasional "balance" patches.

The cash shop is all COMPLETELY optional. There is nothing there that gives you an advantage in game of any kind. The development of assets that are sold on the cash shop takes time and resources separate from game development... aka money. That's why they charge for them.

I consider them as luxury goods and only buy them on special occasions: birthdays, Xmas presents, etc.

[Krotoan]

Your example doesn't work because here, you paid for the car, then you paid for extra. Here, we paid the game when we buy it, and we keep buying it every months. I would not complain to anything in the cash shop if they remove the subscription, but since we pay a subescription so they have income to develop the game, I expect to have access to the content, since I already paid for it. I know it can be hard to understand, but that's what it is. There is no argument that make sense to justify to have to pay again when we already have a subscription. As I said, it's subscription/access to everything, or freetoplay/cash shop. Trying to justify both is just greedy and there is no justification. That's just a big problem from the gaming model we have lately.

The team doing the cash shop items are a separate team than the actual Devs. If people didn't buy them, they wouldn't be there at all. Seasonal items being added are a grey area, but understandable as an incentive to keep your subscription going to acquire the items on first release but allowing a chance to pick it up later.

[Annoynymoose]

[Lambdafish]

So what is the correct price exactly? It's easy to say that something is wrong. Now tell us what's right.

I think the problem isn't the price, but rather pricing disparity, the cloud bike suffers from this the most. First of all, there should be no account wide/single character split, it creates a price divide and causes more problems than helps. Secondly, the gap between two seater and one seater mounts should be lowered. Currently there is a $6 difference to get an extra seat, which I feel should be dropped to $3 (probably coming out to $20 for single seater and $23 for two seater).

Cloud mount should also be $20, the price it is currently sat at is pure greed considering it is a single seater mount.