[DEV ???] Primal weapons need to go to pool. 100 battles 0 weapons (100% Totem/Nut)

[Haru]

I've all but given up hopes of getting anything from these fights.. I passed over 4 parties today.. Back to work tomorrow and then I'll forget all about it until night time / weekend again.

I can see myself easily getting to 200 before a drop. That is if I can be bothered to drag into the fight again knowing full well ill just NPC another stack of Grade 5 Dark Matters

[Triplicus]

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[chocothief]

Not that any of you care, but maybe SE will. I have played since launch, never "taken a break" like many have. I am about to quit because of this POS loot system. I see weapons drop left and right some to people who just joined and get it their first win. Several doubles going to waste makes me want to scream.

I know we've all heard it before but it sucks. If AF gear is ANYTHING close to this I will quit.

[MicahZerrshia]

If AF gear with jobs IS like this...I DEF will not be around long. There is no way I will spam a fight 50 times for 1 piece of gear in a ?5? piece set. Screw that one.

I had ls mates that went 3/5 on their first night fighting ifrit and 1-2/3 on the first moogle wins (although moogle weapons I dont really care about since most of them are ugly...hello moogle punches...and stats wise arent really as good) but here I sit with accumulating dark matter.

If they would in the very LEAST give us a guaranteed totem for a win that would be wonderful. Even if everyone in the pt gave them to 1 person it would still be better for everyone. I know very few ppl who have gotten 0 drops and need just the one. Myself I could use at least 4-5. There are way too many ppl spamming this fight with us who have all their weapons and are just there to help. While kind of them to do so, its not really something they should have to do. Climbing 1-100 AND farming all weapons/gear from Nyzul Isle didnt take me this long...

[Anima]

These past weeks I have been doing Ifrit and Moogle almost everyday.
Ifrit around 60+ (Total I did was 100+, can't care less to count anymore)
Moogle, not so much probably 10.

I have yet to get anything from both fights, I have been wanting to get Ifrit's Harpoon for a month now, but even then, I haven't gotten anything, other than Dark Matters. On the other hand, my friends, got 9 Harpoon doubles and had to throw it all up. Wtf is wrong with this SE?

My only request to SE:
Make the weapons, or whatever fk it is go to the "LOOT". I mean, you have this system, you have the /random thing, so why does it need to go to Inventory Immediately? To make people not Ninja loot? So that there will be no LS bullshits?
C'mon, don't give me that Crap, I think those LS DKP system were great, and If any, so "MUCH BETTER" than this.

Please, can we just get a reward for hardwork and skill? or does SE's logic defies the "Hardwork+Skill/=Reward"? At least make the Goddamn crappy Totem/Charm drop 100%, what are they even for now anyway? Decorations?

/endrant

[slipmac]

ignoring?
the reps are on vacation they cant exactly respond right now

1) the totem system is new, if they see peoples opinions on it we may get a change on how its done soon enough
2) multi ls chat may be in the works with the linkshell stuff they are working on(its been known to be in the works we just dont know details of whats being worked on with all that yet)
3) search is only fail if people dont use it, the system is there so it obviously wasnt ignored, also if someone is your friend, ever try adding them to your FRIEND LIST, then you can see them online and ASK them where they are. Shouting will never stop as its efficient, and should be used alongside the search function.


but its obvious what ytour getting at, so enjoy playing other games cuz this one obviously isnt for you with that attitude(youve more then made up your mind)

i didnt mean the last couple of days i ment since beta
get real. i dont have an attitude this is real problem or there wouldnt be a long ass post about it.

1. Sure why not.

2. This was already stated they'll work on implementing this most likely for 2.0 if not 1.23.

3. You can change the level of the search......lol.

4. They said text commands, e.g /sea will be implemented at a later date, they just got the framework of it in (and it works perfectly fine for it's purpose atm.)

you can try to justify the search feature all you want but bottom line its crap
yes i know you can change the level great now i just have to change the level and search every zone. wow awesome search feature

[Velhart]

I 100% support this thread.

I'm sorry, but this is the worst drop system I have ever seen in an MMO. I remember the original reason being was because they were scared of ninja looting. I will tell you right now, I much rather take the chance of someone ninja looting my item than deal with this god awful system.

Also, what the hell is the point of the totem system if it drops as often as the weapon does? This makes the system pointless and broken. Almost no one is just going to give away their kupo nut since they want to keep it, and I can't blame them, because most people don't get the weapon they want till they kill him a ton. If anything, totems should be 100% drop rate. Beating Moogle twenty times definitely deserves a guaranteed reward.

Others are right, SE is worried that people will stop playing after getting their item. I can tell you right now, more people are quitting simply because of this drop system. No one should ever have to deal with this type of system, I could go as far to say the system is simply cruel. I am on the edge myself because of this.

I beat Ifrit about over 100+ times, getting 6/7 weapons from the event during it's prime. Want to guess which one I did not get? The weapon for my main class. If you beat something over 100 times and don't get the weapon you are seeking, you have a terrible system. I have even lost the will to take on Moogle simply because I feel like I am going to fall into this again and just be disappointed. Being repetitive is one thing, but being repetitive and not getting properly rewarded is game breaking.

I know we are getting a need/greed system in 2.0, but for now I look at 1.0 and if you want to keep people from quitting, you really, "really" need to change the system here. At least someone in your group should come out happy each fight.

[Dargoth_Draconia]

I agree that the current system is bad.

1. Drops should not be going to waste. System needs to be fixed in a way that items do not get tossed in garbage.

2. Totem/Nut items should have much higher drop rate than weapons. Chances are, by the time I get 10/20 totem/nut I will already have all the weapons I want anyway, unless my party always gives me all the nuts, which is unlikely because everyone wants the totem/nut too.

3. Actually the addition of totem/nut under current circumstances only makes things worse because now there is a chance to get a nut instead of a weapon. At least before when I got a rare drop it was a weapon. Now when I get a rare drop it could possibly be only 1/10th or 1/20th of a weapon ...


Imo, ideal system would be something like 100% drop of the totem/nut item, but takes more of them to get a weapon, like maybe 30-40. Also keep the rare drop of a weapon right away from the chest. This way if you still didn't get a weapon after 30-40 tries, you can fall back on your totem/nuts. You feel like you are getting somewhere even if it takes a long time. Unlike current system, where you feel like you are just wasting your time and effort.

Should be 20 at the most for a weapon, 20 times actually beating one of those battles is an accomplishment and a time consuming process at that even if your LS is on top of their game and can beat it every run without messing up at all. Most people mess up though and wipe here and there. My suggestion is keep Ifrit at 10 because it is an older fight, Mog is good where it is, but make the totem drop either a 50%+ or just a 100% drop. There is several people in my LS who have all the weapons and I have ran the fights as much as them and only got 2 and a totem. (Both which was obtained prior to the release of totems) Personally if I got the weapon I wanted I would play a lot more than not ever getting what I want. I have nearly given up even trying, what's the point? It is past fun at the point and just winning back to back to get nothing.

[Orcishgrappler]

The fact that this is still not fixed already is sad really.

[Jennestia]

you can try to justify the search feature all you want but bottom line its crap
yes i know you can change the level great now i just have to change the level and search every zone. wow awesome search feature

So in the end you're complaining that you don't know how to use the feature? Understood. By the way, did you know it automatically searches every zone by default?