Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[S-r-ex]

My isn't take is that "the game is too easy", but the skill floor remains too low at higher levels, players are allowed to under perform for too long without repercussion. Casual players shouldn't need to be challenged, but some sure need to be asked how their job works by the time they deck themselves in full Scavean gear.

It's OK that you want to have a relaxing time, just please pull your punches and don't make dungeons take more than half an hour.

[NekoNova]

My isn't take is that "the game is too easy", but the skill floor remains too low at higher levels, players are allowed to under perform for too long without repercussion. Casual players shouldn't need to be challenged, but some sure need to be asked how their job works by the time they deck themselves in full Scavean gear.

It's OK that you want to have a relaxing time, just please pull your punches and don't make dungeons take more than half an hour.

"Casual players shouldn't be challenged"
"Don't make dungeon take longer than x minutes"


Which one is it?

[Skyclaw726]

-Snip-

Remember as well many bosses in vanilla WoW were broken like C'thun, C'thun on release was impossible to kill because he wasn't tuned correctly people worked out that if you had the best gear in the game and the right class set up and everyone doing everything perfectly you still couldn't kill him. Once he was hotfixed a few months later he was killed within hours.

Vanilla's longevity was mainly down to things not being balanced and like you say above being made to wait for everything. Imagine if while running Binding Coil your bard has to leave to get more arrows but the nearest vendor is in Ul'dah and there's no teleporting.

[FFgame]

CasualBringers introduced too many single player/casual systems instead of dungeons extreme mode or some take on mythic+

[Insertcoins]

This whole thread is mute and pointless.... OP hasn't cleared anything past a 24man. Which means his opinion on hard content is pointless.

[Gwenorai]

The money is in the casual player. Thought that was obvious. That being said I'm extremely excited for Eden Savage. I'm really hoping MCH and DNC have great synergy in regards to the dance partners.

[MaraD_]

playing 1.0 to now, I'd say HW increased difficulty in all categories from 1.0/2.0
SB may be considered easier than HW, but only by a small fraction.
If anything I was suprised they increased difficulty in the more casual content.

The main things to be really effected in "made too easy" are healers.
Thats mostly it really. (the small exception of taking the most complex tank, and making it the least complex tank, and the other 2 being medium complexity, in comparison. and having RDM being easiest, followed by having SAM being mostly easier than the other melee.)

As soon as I read the title, my 1st thought was, the OP must be a healer, to be now saying anything about difficulty. (sure enough...)

[MrKusakabe]

So I can't glomp you in random dungeons and ask for friends? - Heartbroken-

I am always open for that - no, I am actually trying to do that in dungeons. I just can not understand why people seem to really hate to be with randoms - but still log into roulette with that attitude. I mean, what is that? "Oh, I hate public transportation and the random people I will never see again so much! But I still use the bus despite I could drive with my (FC) carpool!"

When a dungeon run is too cold, I simply /poke a cat and I get a /pet back. That is a sure way to break the ice.. :-)

[linay]

CasualBringers introduced too many single player/casual systems instead of dungeons extreme mode or some take on mythic+

FFXIV already has a nice progression of difficulty from dungeon to normal trial/raid to alliance raid to extreme trial to savage raid to ultimate. If people want more difficult light party content, I'd rather they bring back light party trial than some kind of extreme mode for dungeon, and certainly not some kind of mythic+ style race-against-time dungeon run.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

CasualBringers introduced too many single player/casual systems instead of dungeons extreme mode or some take on mythic+

Why does it always seem like the ones complaining the most about "Casualbringers" and "too many casual things" are always the ones who haven't done much of/any of the difficult content in the game.