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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The same question still applies those. Why? You may prefer to go in blind, but not everyone does or cares. If you can't find a party for blind prog, then make one yourself. Guide makers are going to release content quickly because the whole intent is catering towards who want them.
    I think people are misunderstanding me a bit. Guides are fine, in general. But when a few patches dropped, you'd see party finders up for ex fights with "watch a guide" before a guide was even out. On day one. Other times, the creators would rush to get the guides out, and have misinformation or mistakes (Mr happy's Garuda ex guide being one of the worst offenders". A lot of the time, these guides are never fixed, noted, or adjusted in any way, leaving bad info.

    One of the current annoyances I deal with is the A B C callout for cerberus in WoD. You don't need a whole alliance for chains. All dps should get eaten to speed the fight up.


    I personally don't watch guides because a guide only tells me what I can learn the first time I go in anyway. Sure, I reference guides when looking for adjustments for a group as a whole (who should be where and when) when we get stuck on a phase or mechanic. But for the most part, I learn the fight as I go. It's worked out so far.
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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    I'll never understand this irrational distaste for YTers/Influencers/Streamers. No one is forcing players to watch said guides, if you want to blind run everything then form a static with that as the requirement.

    Regardless of your personal feelings of influencers, they have a pretty big impact on the community and you not liking them for whatever inane reason isnt going to change that.
    See right here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I think people are misunderstanding me a bit. Guides are fine, in general. But when a few patches dropped, you'd see party finders up for ex fights with "watch a guide" before a guide was even out. On day one. Other times, the creators would rush to get the guides out, and have misinformation or mistakes (Mr happy's Garuda ex guide being one of the worst offenders". A lot of the time, these guides are never fixed, noted, or adjusted in any way, leaving bad info.
    Mr. Happy did not make or design this game. His approval was not needed for anything, and yet people look at his videos as word of God and day 1 are practically slobbering for it. And thus, within the first week of a major patch, PF is filled with WATCH A GUIDE over mechanics that can be grasped roughly on the first run or 2.

    The people who made the guides went in blind, it should not be expected of me to have watched one because I had a life to attend to and couldn't be there minute 0. If someone asks for help, offer help. This extends to queuing into something for the first time. I shouldn't have to hold the party up or leave because someone wants me to watch a 10 minute video I will not retain. Nor should I have to sit and wait for someone to give unsolicited advice a la these videos, parroting Mr. Happy and happier than a pig in mud.

    Doing Kugane Ohashi day 1 before a guide was out was the most fun I'd had in awhile because everyone was blind, no one could explain anything before the fight started and after a few wipes we got it. I would hate to have done it that weekend where people wont start because "Let me explain this boss for 5 minutes despite no one asking."
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    Last edited by Gula; 06-19-2019 at 09:36 AM. Reason: When you can't into all these instance names.
    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh