SE: Can we get back skip cutscene in Main Scenarios?

[Floortank]

They should cut all the cutscenes out of Castrum Meridianum--just have Cid say his lines from the cutscenes in live action without stopping the dungeon--and turn Praetorium into a solo duty with the Scions as Trust NPCs.

That way we have a fast MSQ duty worth a ton of exp, and first time players can always enjoy the Praetorium cutscenes. Or skip them at their leisure.

[DavidIven]

watching those cutscenes everyday is lame

[Azhra]

Necromancer is my favourite class!

Jokes aside... I've been playing since ARR beta. I took my time through the MSQ, and was a good week behind everyone by the time I got to Castrum and Praetorium. I remember how they were trying to pressure me to skip cutscenes and watch them in the inn WITHIN THE FIRST MONTH OF THE GAMES RELEASE. And I saw it happen again and again with other players in future runs. If they didn't skip, they were left behind and would get lost (and often killed by the mobs left behind), sometimes even kicked for not participating in combat due to being in cutscenes once vote-kicking became an option.

During ARR I had at least 4 characters that I got to 50 on, and that number increased in later expansions. So I got to do those dungeons often between the tomestone grind and having to redo them for characters. Do I hate watching the cutscenes over and over? Certainly, who doesn't? But having watched how awful the community got in those dungeons as time went by, it's a necessary evil.

I like the idea of making it a solo instance. But for anyone saying that if there's no new people in the group that we should be allowed to skip, that would simply cause new people to be kicked from the groups the moment that the first cutscene was finished.

This happened because our community has this "ME ME ME ME!" and "SPEED RUN ONLY!" mentality. If people want the rewards from the MSQ that badly, they'll do it and deal with the cutscenes, a direct consequence of our communities actions. And for mentors that leave the MSQ roulette or anything that they get that they don't like; unless you're in a hurry and have to be out the door in approx 20 minutes (in which case why are you queueing for anything anyways?), stop queueing for mentor roulette and drop your crown, because clearly you're not here to help new players and therefor don't deserve that mentor mount.

[Krotoan]

They should cut all the cutscenes out of Castrum Meridianum--just have Cid say his lines from the cutscenes in live action without stopping the dungeon--and turn Praetorium into a solo duty with the Scions as Trust NPCs.

That way we have a fast MSQ duty worth a ton of exp, and first time players can always enjoy the Praetorium cutscenes. Or skip them at their leisure.

The whole reason the roulette is worth a ton of XP is because it is a guaranteed investment of a sizeable chunk of time.

watching those cutscenes everyday is lame

You have control over whether or not you will watch those cutscenes everyday.

[Seoulstar]

Except... that often wasn't what happened. In a lot of cases, people didn't care if you watched the cut scenes. They just sped on ahead and killed everything. I used to spam MSQ a lot when I was leveling and far more often than not the reaction was "just watch the cut scenes. Don't worry about it" as we speed off.

Of course, this annoyed some players who wanted to both watch the cut scenes and participate in the battles. While I appreciate that, you're asking upwards of seven other people to stand around doing nothing for almost an hour because you want the best of both worlds. It's not exactly surprising most people didn't acquiesce, especially once ilvl sync became high enough even DPS could pull without worry. Don't fault the playerbase for a poorly designed mistake by the dev team—one they openly acknowledged.

That all said, my sympathies go to the new players or alt levelers who aren't interested in the story, or don't want to wait almost an hour to get through one dungeon. People wanting the better reward can just go do something else but the aforementioned don't have an option.

It happened often enough for it to be an actual issue that SE had to address. In all my times of doing the MSQ roulettes. The vast majority of them involved the party rushing through the entire thing, leaving the sprout to watch the cutscenes. It's quite an issue when you talk to many people about this and most admit that they actually had to skip the cutscenes and watch them in the inn..so yes, it happened often enough.

Watching the cutscenes and participating in the battle was literally the intent of this. The seven or so people who picked the MSQ roulette should be prepared to be spending almost an hour there. It's a story MMO, that new player most likely want to actually enjoy the whole thing like it was intended. I will fault the playerbase for this. Because nothing excuse pressuring people to not enjoy something how it was meant to be enjoyed because some people apparently want to rush through everything and that is another issue with this community that has been brought up time and time again.

I will end with this too. My sympathies goes out all those people who actually wanted to enjoy a MSQ dungeon. But couldn't because people who were done with it wanted to just rush through with little to no regard to the person that wants to enjoy it. The reward was basically to compensate spending time to help a new or I guess alt character even though most of the time it was just new. But of course given how a lot in this community wants to just speed run everything. That got ruined and now here we are.

[Zeonx]

They should cut all the cutscenes out of Castrum Meridianum--just have Cid say his lines from the cutscenes in live action without stopping the dungeon--and turn Praetorium into a solo duty with the Scions as Trust NPCs.

That way we have a fast MSQ duty worth a ton of exp, and first time players can always enjoy the Praetorium cutscenes. Or skip them at their leisure.

You can't give exp bonus for quick cutscenes no other dungeon would be open and everyone would be doing that to level up jobs.

a friend even said if they took cutscenes away and gave ton of exp he wouldn't even bother with running all the dungeons at all he'd just do that everyday log out and do something else that's something SE needs to avoid.

if you say what about his ilevel gear he basically said he'd just hit 80 then wait till they nerfed stones and maxed out gear.

the nerfing also something SE shouldn't do but they do it for some reason.

[ForteNightshade]

It happened often enough for it to be an actual issue that SE had to address. In all my times of doing the MSQ roulettes. The vast majority of them involved the party rushing through the entire thing, leaving the sprout to watch the cutscenes. It's quite an issue when you talk to many people about this and most admit that they actually had to skip the cutscenes and watch them in the inn..so yes, it happened often enough.

Watching the cutscenes and participating in the battle was literally the intent of this. The seven or so people who picked the MSQ roulette should be prepared to be spending almost an hour there. It's a story MMO, that new player most likely want to actually enjoy the whole thing like it was intended. I will fault the playerbase for this. Because nothing excuse pressuring people to not enjoy something how it was meant to be enjoyed because some people apparently want to rush through everything and that is another issue with this community that has been brought up time and time again.

I will end with this too. My sympathies goes out all those people who actually wanted to enjoy a MSQ dungeon. But couldn't because people who were done with it wanted to just rush through with little to no regard to the person that wants to enjoy it. The reward was basically to compensate spending time to help a new or I guess alt character even though most of the time it was just new. But of course given how a lot in this community wants to just speed run everything. That got ruined and now here we are.

... you do realize almost half your rebuttal literally repeats what I said, yes? People rushed ahead... while letting the newbies watch their cut scenes. You've made a lot of assumptions here. How can someone be "pressured" into something if told precisely the opposite? If they feel pressured, that is on them and no one else. Furthermore, I have come across plenty who outright despise now being forced to watch cut scenes. It doesn't matter the intent because it's still asking people to wait on you for upwards of an hour. And the rewards weren't worthwhile before this change. If we're going to argue intent, well. The devs "intend" for healers to heal. You can see how well the community takes to those intentions.

Regardless, I don't made the change myself. As for speed running. That is subjective. You may want to take in every little detail. Cool. More power to you. Some people don't.

[Driavna]

... you do realize almost half your rebuttal literally repeats what I said, yes? People rushed ahead... while letting the newbies watch their cut scenes.

Back before the forced cut scenes if a player was already watching one while the party triggered another said player will miss it.

[KuroMaboroshi]

Back before the forced cut scenes if a player was already watching one while the party triggered another said player will miss it.

This so much. I myself had my first run of the Praetorium ruined by this, got shot down with the usual "watch it at the inn" when asking them to wait and that was that. Watching at the inn just feels like what it is: A rewatch. The whole emotional momentum of running the dungeon got lost.
So while the current system of forcing people to watch the cutscenes is quite bad, I still think it is way better than what we had before.

Which is of course not to say it should remain as is. Really, if any dungeons were ever in need of the upcoming trust system, it were these two and I really hope SE includes them if they ever extend it to pre-ShB content. Then we can just remove MSQ roulette altogether again...

...and probably watch people complain that the rewards are gone. Cause some people they'll never be able to please.

[LaylaTsarra]

They aren't changing them back. The duty is popular and I'm sure that's enough for SE to make a determination about whether what they're doing is working. If no one was running the duty which was what many predicted here when they implemented it but that didn't prove to be the case. The Trust system would be nice if you could bring a full party along but Im not sure though what level the trust system is set for. isn't it solely for new ShB content at release?