Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Lauront]

This has nothing to do with "triggering" - it's more to do with the fact that you can't take (largely fictitious) statistics about RL males, and then apply them in a context where peak performance is sought due to the frequency of combat encountered.

[SturmChurro]

"Celeb bodies" are generally built for aesthetics - not strength - for that matter too!

[jake200135]

While I think he's a total badass, I think Hrothgar have claimed that body type.

Agreed, we don't need mViera to be Hrothgar 2.0

mViera should be muscular, but not like the mountain at all.

[Gwenorai]

I do agree that most men don't look like that.


Yeah, but there are plenty of lanky dudes out there, too. Not everyone has a midlander/highlander build irl. A lot of guys I know tend to be on the smaller and/or slimmer side of things, too. Obviously, there are a variety of body types.

Oh of course, but the statics our dear Zeylos was popping out was simply insane. If his argument that the top percentage of physically adept women - bodybuilders and the likes are stronger than a good portion of men, then he'd be right. But if you put a woman and a man together in a match where they have lived similar lifestyles and they were going all out. It is much more likely that the male will win in the combat.

A lanky man is more likely to be stronger than a lanky woman. And this isn't me adding into the whole information on how women are less inclined to take part in physical combat compared to men.


OOFFF, why is this conversation even a thing.

You know what. I want my male Viera to be naked. Clothes be damned. Let them squat everywhere. Throwing my hands up in the air at this madness.

[Amnmaat]

I've never seen anyone request male Viera to look like Hrothgar. I've seen plenty of people asking them to look like justin beiber though.

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Don't let them waste your daily posts on nonsense. They won't be happy until male VIera is turned into this


And now Senn says nothing matters because it's a game.
@Senn
Oh well, please add this to your first post

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

LOL I dont get how can me saying that most men arent like celeb stars trigger some ppl. Honestly, I find it very amusing the amount of hate I get for saying whatever I say.
Really, some comments here really hurt me, and I'd simply ask for u to not talk about how men are stronger than women etc etc, it has hurt me a lot on my life, and I'd ask you kindly to stop
I think I'll leave the thread for a while for the better of everyone, myself included. Have a Gn

Dude, what?! Just because people are telling you you're wrong doesn't mean they're hating on you. And you'd really prefer people don't talk about men being stronger than women? It's biology, man. There's no way around it. It just is what it is. If you wanna go argue with your body composition about it, please tell me how that goes. If this civil conversation has "hurt you" then you might want to figure out how to get thicker skin.

[Senn]

if you put a woman and a man together in a match where they have lived similar lifestyles and they were going all out. It is much more likely that the male will win in the combat.

A lanky man is more likely to be stronger than a lanky woman. And this isn't me adding into the whole information on how women are less inclined to take part in physical combat compared to men.

Agreed if we're talking about real life humans. (which I know you are)
Of course, in the game, none of that matters.

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Not gonna lie, I'd totally be on board with a kpop male viera.

And now Senn says nothing matters because it's a game.

...yeah? A game isn't real life. Muscle mass doesn't really mean anything in ffxiv. It matters in real life, though.

[Allegor]

LOL I dont get how can me saying that most men arent like celeb stars trigger some ppl. Honestly, I find it very amusing the amount of hate I get for saying whatever I say.
Really, some comments here really hurt me, and I'd simply ask for u to not talk about how men are stronger than women etc etc, it has hurt me a lot on my life, and I'd ask you kindly to stop

I'll be honest right now - you're getting emotional, and biased, and that sets off people the same way. Take a breath and chill.

Men are biologically stronger than women, that's a fact, but nobody is shaming anyone, and no one is saying all men are superior to women either, just stating that the average woman has to work harder to gain the same build than the average man, average being the key word, it is not written in stone - and again, nobody is being shamed for it.

Let's not play the domino chain here and remember that we may as well all be thousands of miles from each other and our perspective of the world may differ from one another. I - for example - see "Highlanders" or "Miqo" everywhere, while able to count all the "Elezen" guys I see with my hand. Someone at the other side of the world may see the exact opposite.

[Lauront]

Agreed if we're talking about real life humans. (which I know you are)
Of course, in the game, none of that matters.

None of it matters - for the WoL. Again, to drive home this point, the claim is not that females cannot excel in combat roles in the game; just that that isn't because it throws out all the usual rules of biology but because aether can act as a leg up, and because you have other confounding factors like the Echo or BoL; but it doesn't alter the fact that this kind of training and equipment is not readily available, especially if you're a group of tribal warriors. So it would not alter group-wide strategies on how to handle combat - and in that context, the Buduga strategy is certainly a viable one.

[Senn]

None of it matters - for the WoL.

What about Pipin then.