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  1. #6741
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I get your point entirely. I suffered a lot because of sexism and not being a 'true man', and thos lines are quite disgusting. Woman can be stronger than 90% of men, and ppl should really acknowledge that imo
    Where exactly are you getting these numbers and statistics? Can you link some studies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I get your point entirely. I suffered a lot because of sexism and not being a 'true man', and thos lines are quite disgusting. Woman can be stronger than 90% of men, and ppl should really acknowledge that imo
    I study human biology and you're legit triggering the heck out of me with this, and I'm a woman. Stop. This is so untrue it hurts.
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  3. #6743
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Ok, just how many men do u think are into body building or are that strong? Most men look like elezen, or even slimmer, unless you go to hollywood that is. Most women look like female elezen (with human proportions) and then, you'd be surprised to see how many woman are that, or more strong and how many men are that, or more weak. Then, this is simply a fantasy game. Do you think we'd have a race of giant children with moustaches and elf ears otherwise?
    I live in the middle of the United States and there's dudes here built like Highlanders all over the place. I think you're flubbing statistics a bit.
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  4. #6744
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Ok, just how many men do u think are into body building or are that strong? Most men look like elezen, or even slimmer, unless you go to hollywood that is. Most women look like female elezen (with human proportions) and then, you'd be surprised to see how many woman are that, or more strong and how many men are that, or more weak. Then, this is simply a fantasy game. Do you think we'd have a race of giant children with moustaches and elf ears otherwise?
    So many facepalms with this one.

    You're resorting to the "fantasy game" line when you're bringing in imagery of real life humans into this - which besides not being reflective of how sex differences between humans function (i.e. they mean nothing as to the differences in attributes between sexes on average, and even less when you're comparing apples to apples), are not remotely relevant to the Xaela, who by and large lead lives dominated by physical combat... the size difference between Xaela males and females is even more pronounced than RL human females and males.

    Another issue here is the "but it's fantasy" thing doesn't eclipse certain realities: 1) more often than not, it takes time and resource investment to train someone up in a class or job and 2) magically augmented gear which may help augment one's characteristics is not free, either. The former of these is where child-birthing/rearing can become a liability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    To summarize some instances, one of the Buduga says "shame you are a woman" despite showing a test of strength and the Kahn outright says "We have naught to discuss, woman."
    Yes, I am sure they will be in a rush to adjust their ways because some black swan with the Echo and Blessing of Light showed up - which makes absolutely no difference to the rationale for following the strategy they do.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 06-17-2019 at 04:42 AM.
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  5. #6745
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    Uh well... biological males tend to be stronger than biological females. Since this is a fantasy game, and we don't know male viera biology or what male viera look like, it could be different here. In the real world, though, men are physically superior most of the time.
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  6. #6746
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    LOL I dont get how can me saying that most men arent like celeb stars trigger some ppl. Honestly, I find it very amusing the amount of hate I get for saying whatever I say.
    Really, some comments here really hurt me, and I'd simply ask for u to not talk about how men are stronger than women etc etc, it has hurt me a lot on my life, and I'd ask you kindly to stop
    I think I'll leave the thread for a while for the better of everyone, myself included. Have a Gn
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    Last edited by zeylos; 06-17-2019 at 04:35 AM.

  7. #6747
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Male viera probably move big rocks and fallen trees and stuff, so I'm thinking they should get a body like The Mountain.

    While I think he's a total badass, I think Hrothgar have claimed that body type.
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  8. #6748
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    LOL I dont get how can me saying that most men arent like celeb stars trigger some ppl. Honestly, I find it very amusing the amount of hate I get for saying whatever I say
    What on earth are you talking about! Men who aren't celebrities tend to also be physically stronger due to hard labour. Oh my lord. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors are just turning in their graves.
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  9. #6749
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    LOL I dont get how can me saying that most men arent like celeb stars trigger some ppl. Honestly, I find it very amusing the amount of hate I get for saying whatever I say
    Even an out of shape man is stronger than most women - even those who train. Believe it or not most men don't look like Kpop singers or whatever (then again it's 2019). If women were stronger than 90% of men the world would be a completely different place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    LOL I dont get how can me saying that most men arent like celeb stars trigger some ppl.
    I do agree that most men don't look like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
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    Yeah, but there are plenty of lanky dudes out there, too. Not everyone has a midlander/highlander build irl. A lot of guys I know tend to be on the smaller and/or slimmer side of things, too. Obviously, there are a variety of body types.
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